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Bitcoin Dev

its the same in other hardware wallets that decided to use secure chips

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Bitcoin Dev

Hmm didnt know this is this official statement of theirs ?

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Bitcoin Dev

the opensource part shields from all the posible abuse coming from bolos (in theory)

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Bitcoin Dev

but it's not open source. the secure chip code isn't open because of NDA or whatever. A key part of the recovery service is that the shards are sent to three different jurisdictions People might want to verify that part

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Bitcoin Dev

only a fool, who believes there is no back door in the update ledger recover. The hard wallet must be separated like a physical wallet.

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Bitcoin Dev

To be friends rather than companies

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Bitcoin Dev

Personally i would like to see similar solution, but where they would send the shares to other ledgers, forming social recovery that way, with trusted friends holding it.

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Bitcoin Dev

many wallets offer sd card export, ledger offers mnemonic verification which also extracts the mnemonic, and of course while derivation and signing aint happening in the secure chip, there is no support for bitcoin crypto in cheap chips.

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Bitcoin Dev

the main issue was that people didnt understand how hardware wallets work, so they took ledger claims the way they wanted them to be.

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Bitcoin Dev

It also deletes tons of totally unhelpful spam, you just don't see it. Plenty of reason to keep it. Sorry that it comes out that way from time to time

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Bitcoin Dev

Hi, don't know if this is the right group to ask (if not please let me know where should I head to), the thing is that I'm running a full bitcoin core node on latest mint stable release and couldn't find an up to date tutorial about connecting through latest version of Tor services (v3) safely....do you know any?

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Bitcoin Dev

you're quite literally asking to get scammed, so please be safe @learntotrade

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Bitcoin Dev

Hey I’m new here anyone Hu can help me trade ?

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Bitcoin Dev

Bitcoin Munich Satoshi's 21 Online Meetup in a "Socratic light" format reviewing the year 2020 in Bitcoin is starting in about 60 minutes.

Link to the YouTube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Dw97IM9HMY

Link to the conference call: https://meet.ffmuc.net/satoshis21
(It's recommended to use Chrome or a Chromium-based web browser.)
Your microphone will be muted and your camera be off by default. Double-check you're unmuted if you want to speak, and also feel free to turn on your cam then if you like.

On both platforms you can also use the keyboard chat to interact, ask questions, etc

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Bitcoin Dev

longest chain won, no double spend

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Bitcoin Dev

this is how it works, secure chips aren't opensoruce, the arm chip code around them its opensource and shields from calls inside and out

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Bitcoin Dev

In Ledgers current one shards are sent to French, US and British companies.

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Bitcoin Dev

it is opensource except that, and that part doesn't interface with the usb or the internet

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Bitcoin Dev

its opensource, good luck finding the back door, you can collect the bounty

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Bitcoin Dev

This! You could choose your attack vector and not forced into regulatory capture with KYC and regulated companies.

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Bitcoin Dev

Makes more sense if trusting a third party

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Bitcoin Dev

Now they are adding the option to split and encrypt, and then send to three custodians. Its opt in, you would have to input pin and approve it. So its fine, if you dont like it, just skip it, as you did mnenonic verification and all other functions.

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Bitcoin Dev

once you input a pin, private key leaves the secure element, it always did, in all wallets

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Bitcoin Dev

You can try to post your answer once more, I elevated your permissions here

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Bitcoin Dev

can you update the pinned message pls? we have core 0.21 now

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Bitcoin Dev

https://laanwj.github.io/2021/01/21/decentralize.html

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Bitcoin Dev

not the right group, check pinned

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Bitcoin Dev

Solved it! I had the wrong port number. Testnet JSON-RPC is listening on port 18332, not 18334. Saw startup messages in bitcoind indicating listening on 18333 and 18334 and assumed that was P2P and RPC. But apparently not.

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Bitcoin Dev

wait 6 blocks yada yada

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Bitcoin Dev

double spends are supposed to be picked up in the verfication step by nodes which didnt mine, no?

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