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That is the message, nobody forces the same rules onto you.

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In this hypothetical, why are the death penalty and complete exoneration the only possibilities?

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you’re a muslim! you do this all the time
you tell us why islam is right and why it should be followed etc

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It is not my ideology. Also, you assumed a lot of things in your message which you shouldn't have.

We don't go and tell what world needs to do, at best we have given the message and warned people of consequences of their actions.

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Also, entire world is not US and Canada. I don't understand America has this problem that their ideology is what drives the world. Such a wishful thinking.

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Maybe you got killed by me.

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Forget about being on trial and executed.

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Again, it doesn't matter what another human being does to me.

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They are not. Thats the point.

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So, how does it make your argument between?

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Well, human beings cannot be 100% just

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The solution to abolishing the death penalty would either be commuting all death sentences to life in prison without parole or a radical reform of our justice and carceral systems.

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i don’t think there is a hereafter
i don’t think allah would give you or anyone else a form of justice
you’d just die
for nothing

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it’s within the realms of reality

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That is hypothetically possible.

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Muslims are the majority of the people in my place who go around telling what the world needs to do. Y'all go around trying to convert people everywhere.

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you’ve done it several times in this chat

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there are international death penalty abolitionists

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Well only some arabian countries practice your policies... Your ideology too doesn't drive the world

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How will you get justice in this case?

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then this discussion is not worth having with you

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You might be the victim.

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if you advocate for the death penalty that is what you’re doing

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so why give them the ultimate authority over life and death????

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and i would be sad and frustrated if i found out you were wrongfully executed

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i can’t guarantee you any form of justice after death
so i advocate for your maximal right to life while you’re on this earth

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You might be born, live and die, who cares?

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Maybe the idea of reality and beyond this worldly life are different for you and me.

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You suggested that unknown future crimes should be considered, so, yes, that is the argument. How can you base a sentence based on what a person—who has already been sentenced to life in prison without parole—might commit in the future?

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And that is my belief, no matter what injustice in this world. I will have my justice in hereafter.

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