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My old realtor reached out to me
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Well crap. (AIL)
It's a tale as old as time. Single mom needing a flexible work from home job. My folks "sponsored" me for an AD&D policy and as I was talking to the agent about needing a job/not being able to afford a full policy, she offered to get me into the next webinar. Like other posts have mentioned, the webinar was all about how much money you could make. That and the group interview didn't put me off, although I commented to several people that the agency meetings sounded cult-y.
My brother (one of the ones I'd commented to) warned me he'd seen reports of it being MLM-y, but it didn't sound like an MLM, so I continued on. I had already paid for and was taking the training course, so I sunk-costed it.
I paid for my part of the training course ($53), and actually passed my test today (owe $70 to my folks). I paid for my license ($45.60). I made it partway through the contract and decided to check where the union placed its PAC funds, and as I was searching for that, I found posts here going back years about AIL.
I don't know how to proceed. I'm in the Slack server. I'm halfway through the contract, so technically I don't officially work for them yet. But I'm out almost $170 on a currently-fixed income. I think I'll struggle, based on the sales model I was reading about here, because I struggle to lie more than the barest white lie and it sounds like I'm going to have to prevaricate more often than not. My family already has policies through them or through their own jobs, and what few friends I have are on fixed incomes as well, or don't live in the state.
Anybody currently working for them, or recently gotten out? What do you suggest I do? Can I apply for a more reputable life insurance firm with my license, since I did pass the exam?
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Let’s Talk About “Legs” in MLMs - Balancing, structures, and what MLMs don't tell you!
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Got approached today in the grocery store, it's just so pathetic
I do Instacart shopping as a side hustle. Today I was in the supermarket and noticed a young family, mom, dad and 2 young kids - very small baby and maybe a 3 year old. I was turning into an aisle right behind them and the guy says "hello!" in a very friendly manner which, I live in NYC lol, people don't usually do that here. He seemed kind of off in general. They were ahead of me in the aisle and walking very slowly with the kid running around and kind of blocking my way and he turns to me and says "sorry, do you want to pass us?" I said oh no worries I was just going for the soups which are right here. He then asks me about what items I'm buying, if I'm buying soup because I'm not feeling well or just because it's a rainy day. I said I was doing Instacart actually.
He then proceeds to ask me a million questions about Instacart, what else I do, if I'm looking for extra work, and even personal questions about my family and where I come from originally. I thought it was very, very odd and was on alert immediately. I had explained that I do Instacart as a side hustle because I work freelance in the arts and it's not always consistent. So then he starts telling me about his and his wife's "e-commerce business" without really explaining what it was and asking if I was interested. Since I'm clearly incapable of ever saying no, I said hmm maybe I'll think about it, why don't you give me your info and a link to your website? And they said oh do you have Instagram? I said no (lie) and I said I don't give out my phone number but I did give them my email address, but as soon as I said no to Instagram/phone number they seemed to deflate and quickly moved on.
Wondered what kind of a scam this was so came to the Internet to find out it's an MLM, of course. Like, approaching people in grocery stores is not one way to convince me your business is successful or that this is something I would want to be part of, do these people not realize that? I used to run a small business and got clients through good old fashioned advertising and word of mouth, that was it. I never would have even thought of soliciting people in public places. It's like once you've entered an MLM you stop seeing other people as human beings, you just see them as potential "clients" or whatever the word is. It's just so pathetic.
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Classic Hun tactic
I am friends with 2 women on fb that are involved with an MLM. Within 15 minutes of each other, they posted “fb is hiding me again! Please say hello”
Naturally, people are replying cause they’re a) fellow Huns in on it or b) don’t realize this is just trying to reel them in.
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No matter what you're doing, be it at the hospital bedside of your mother, or celebrating your childs kindergarten graduation (seriously though, kindergarten graduation? What is the point?), ABS, always be scamming.
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I set up an interview
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Super Patch is a joke 😃
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They've made claims of a cure for dementia, ADHD, and now claims for balancing hormones, (”postpartum what!?”), “stubborn hormone belly”, “cancer, autoimmunity, sickness, and disease. What’s next?
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guys. it really is so simple.
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Our Experience with Amway recruiters!!!
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Which MLMs have you encountered in your existence?
I found this community via Savy Writes Books, and I thought I only knew MLMs from YouTube videos, but I did the math and realized I have actually come across them in my life. I was curious what other people's experiences were. Did someone try to recruit you? Did you get invited to a "spa day"? Did you get sucked into somebody's downline? What was the product? What did you think of it?
I've been through, I think, two. I say "I think" because I'm not sure about one of them. My interaction was vague--I recall one of my roommates had someone over doing some sort of demonstration of clothing. (Not Lularoe--this was probably before the company was founded, and at any rate, it was solid colors and not screamingly ugly prints.) I thought it was a pretty weird way to sell clothes, and suspected it was an MLM.
The second was at a product demo for The Pampered Chef. A dear friend of mine had hosted it on behalf of a consultant (or whatever they call them) that she knew. I don't think she was actively involved. (If she was, she certainly isn't anymore.) I won a door prize of a sort of miniature whisk that was ostensibly for stirring drinks, but was terrific for scrambling one or two eggs. I still have it. I think the consultant may have said something about a "business opportunity", and I may have thought "ah." When I had to move back into my folks' place after the dot-com bubble collapse, the little whisk ended up in my mom's kitchen drawer and my mom loved it. I didn't have the info for the person I'd gotten it from, so we looked it up on the website and got one there (hey! You can just sell things online instead of exploiting people!) Once we'd placed the order, we got the name of our consultant and never used it. We got our cheap whisk and left.
So, that's my MLM story. What's yours?
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Modere huns to shaklee
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Arieyl gives you back your *DREAMS*
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MLM in Italia: raccontami la tua esperienza
Ciao, sto scrivendo un articolo per la rivista Prismag sul network marketing come setta commerciale e la manipolazione della fede religiosa che fanno per reclutare e mantenere le persone all'interno del programma.
Mi farebbe piacere intervistare qualcuno, anche in anonimo, per l'articolo e farmi raccontare la sua esperienza; non è strettamente necessaria la parte riguardante la fede, anche se mi piacerebbe esplorare questo aspetto, di cui in Italia non si parla molto. Scrivetemi pure in dm, ogni aiuto è apprezzato.
Inoltre, sto anche cercando persone esperte sui meccanismi psicologici delle sette che possano offrire la loro opinione professionale al riguardo.
Vi ringrazio
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Hun confirms: Monat stinks.
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FM's exciting update for leaders
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Real estate MLMs?
Maybe I’m completely living under a rock but when did real estate become structured like an MLM?
Got a cold reach out from someone I was actually close friends with years ago about “their new business adventure.” It was so “hey hon” coded that I was shocked and weirdly relieved when I saw they were a real estate agent.
Then I got on Facebook and saw his “mentor” that leads his real estate group posted stats about how many cold calls he made today (cool, that feels good 🫠) and how many “points” he earned per call. Huh????
Has it always been like this? Funny enough our agent when we bought our house worked for the same company but we were connected through a friend so didn’t get any of this creepy bullshit.
Subtly worked in the fact that we had just bought a house and what do you know, left on read.
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Between the Bible study MLM, and the Paid Per Letter/Send It Academy MLM scams, it's a ‘wonder’ how he finds time to eat.
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😮💨Not the Québec vanity plate.....
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Anyone know what this is?
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Has anyone heard of iHealth? I need help getting my mom out of this scam
My mom's been doing iHealth "business" (they sell NMN supplements) for several years now, she got dragged in by a friend on WeChat (it was Jeunesse at first but quickly switched over to iHealth). Its a mostly Chinese community on here though, and for years my mom has been trying to get me to use the products/recruit others to use and distribute, etc regular mlm type stuff. But I feel like recently it's really been impacting us in a negative way. For context, she also is very mistrustful of doctors since my dad passed from cancer. For example, my mom seems to think that her NMN will solve all health issues, even though the product itself says that it's a supplement not intended to treat illnesses but everyone in the MLM seems to see it like a cure all. A recent example is when I was diagnosed with anemia and my mom was adamantly against me going to pick up my prescriptions saying that NMN will supplement my iron deficiency and that modern medicine is full of chemicals and expensive (my pills were free covered with insurance while she spends thousands on NMN). But this has been happening for a while now, with my mom frequently not letting us get medicine (like ibuprofen or cold/flu medicine) when me or my siblings are sick because "NMN will cure us."
Anyways, I was wondering if anyone has gotten someone out of a MLM like this before. Its getting really out of hand and all my mom's friends have been NMN cult members or become one because of my mom. I don't want her to be an anti medicine anti vaxxer plzzzz 😭🙏🙏🙏😭🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
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Accidentally signed up for Primerica 1 hour ago. Help me get out!!
I just had a baby two weeks ago and posted in a local FB group about making some extra money since I got screwed out of my maternity leave.
I had this information session for a “financial company”.
I have never heard of Primerica and it sounded great. I went with the sign up and decided it was something I could do from home.
Well, when I was done and signed up I googled them and realized I fell for an MLM.
I’ve already called my bank and set up a stop payment anywhere from $25-150 (they said $124 (($99 for the license and $25 monthly fee)). But where do I go from here? I have a hard time saying no and am a people pleaser. So I feel like it’s going to break this poor girls heart who I signed up with and I already have multiple people from the company texting me.
I needed financial help, now I have a $35 stop payment fee and more stress than needed.
Please help!
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Vector
My husband is job hunting. He has a job but he's not happy there so he's looking. This morning he told me about a job on indeed he found called Vector Marketing. Soon as he said it I cut him off and said NO!! He's like let me finish. I'm like no, let me guess it's a call center or going door to door selling insanely expensive knives. He said how do you know? I said antimlm sub on Reddit. I'm not sure if it's a scam, mlm or what but it's not a legitimate sustainable job. I'd hate to see your quit a legitimate job.
So thanks.
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"This rich/successful person thinks I AM SPECIAL"
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Should I join Hegemon Group International Direct ($0 USD)
Want to help my friend but don't want to have anything to do with HGI.
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Need Genuine Advice on something
So it all began 5 years ago when my Uncle, who was living in Japan, moved back home to the US. Everything was going well and dandy when he came back (Besides a global virus going around called Covid) until early 2021 when he told me he met this guy named Mike at a Walmart. Now my Uncle is a very intelligent, kind, sincere guy who's always been interested in doing something entrepreneurial so when this Mike guy tells him he can achieve financial freedom, be a boss man and escape the 9-5 'Rat Race' he went all in. At the time, I didn't know anything about MLM's but my uncle told me the company was called Amway, and soon enough after I went on a zoom call with this Mike and was told all these amazing wonderful fucking lies about becoming Wealthy beyond my Wildest Dreams. So being a naive 21 year old self, who, like everyone, likes the idea of being rich, drank the Kool Aid. Next 2 months we did the zoom meetings, bought the material, invited ALL my friends onto it (We all laugh about it together now) it fell apart soon after. And even worse, I used both my stimulus checks of 1200$ to buy a bunch of Amway products that still to this day, I don't fucking touch. So anyways, we erase contact with this Mike guy, cut our losses, and move on. Happy Ending! Right guys? My uncle learned his lesson, all is well, he won't get sucked into another. Fast forward just a couple of months ago and I see this plaque on his wall. It was some kind of award, with the words 'Primerica' on it. I ask him what it's for, he told me that he went to Phoenix to collect the award, and that Primerica is a company that specializes in selling Life insurance and other financial products to help support people. Awesome, cool, I think to myself, 'Hey so some of them are having a potluck on Saturday if you wanna come by' he ask me and I said sure, I like free food. Wellll, what do you know, we walk in, friendly smiling people, everyone going to the Christmas tree to grab envelopes with cash inside (A holiday prize thing to honor people who sold the most/recruited the most) and I'm eating my food, feeling good, ready to go, 'This isn't so bad' I thought to myself and then what do you know, some speaker walks to the front talking about ALLLL the same things that Amway did with those code words. 'Financial Freedom, Bring friends and family into this amazing opportunity, yadda yadda'. Afterwards, I'm in his Mentors office, sitting across from this lady named Ali, a regional VP. This woman is scattered brained, all over the place, I ask her 'What is it I'd do? How much would i get paid?' Very valid questions on how this works, and I get nothing but vague lose awnsers, and I have to give them 99$ to become one of them, and pay 25$ every month to use their website bullshit. That's when I realize, I was brought in to sign up, 'Sorry don't got the money right now' I say. My uncle says that's okay, he'll pay for my 99$ entry fee, cool I guess. A week later my Uncle gets me in a zoom call with Ali, to talk more about the job and how I'd earn money and I kid you not, the whole time it was just a high pressure sales pitch for her to get my card information, social security number to pay 89$ a fucking month (as a healthy 25 year old) for their term life insurance. Which mind you, had a deadline on when it would run out. Now I don't know why I did this, I guess feeling sorry for my uncle, I gave them my card information, but, with a stroke of good luck, my credit card just got shot down the day before because of unrelated suspected fraud so they were never able to pull the money out. It's been a few months now, and I've probably gotten like 50 million calls from them to schedule my medical exam 😂🤣 Now my Uncle is finally ready to do a pre licensing exam, wants me to come to spend 9 hours with him on my weekdays, and enough is enough at this point. How do I convince him this shit is a scam? He's drinking the kool Aid viciously.
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Putting the MLM before the deity? Freudian slip?
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