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Real estate MLMs?
Maybe I’m completely living under a rock but when did real estate become structured like an MLM?
Got a cold reach out from someone I was actually close friends with years ago about “their new business adventure.” It was so “hey hon” coded that I was shocked and weirdly relieved when I saw they were a real estate agent.
Then I got on Facebook and saw his “mentor” that leads his real estate group posted stats about how many cold calls he made today (cool, that feels good 🫠) and how many “points” he earned per call. Huh????
Has it always been like this? Funny enough our agent when we bought our house worked for the same company but we were connected through a friend so didn’t get any of this creepy bullshit.
Subtly worked in the fact that we had just bought a house and what do you know, left on read.
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Between the Bible study MLM, and the Paid Per Letter/Send It Academy MLM scams, it's a ‘wonder’ how he finds time to eat.
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😮💨Not the Québec vanity plate.....
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Anyone know what this is?
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Has anyone heard of iHealth? I need help getting my mom out of this scam
My mom's been doing iHealth "business" (they sell NMN supplements) for several years now, she got dragged in by a friend on WeChat (it was Jeunesse at first but quickly switched over to iHealth). Its a mostly Chinese community on here though, and for years my mom has been trying to get me to use the products/recruit others to use and distribute, etc regular mlm type stuff. But I feel like recently it's really been impacting us in a negative way. For context, she also is very mistrustful of doctors since my dad passed from cancer. For example, my mom seems to think that her NMN will solve all health issues, even though the product itself says that it's a supplement not intended to treat illnesses but everyone in the MLM seems to see it like a cure all. A recent example is when I was diagnosed with anemia and my mom was adamantly against me going to pick up my prescriptions saying that NMN will supplement my iron deficiency and that modern medicine is full of chemicals and expensive (my pills were free covered with insurance while she spends thousands on NMN). But this has been happening for a while now, with my mom frequently not letting us get medicine (like ibuprofen or cold/flu medicine) when me or my siblings are sick because "NMN will cure us."
Anyways, I was wondering if anyone has gotten someone out of a MLM like this before. Its getting really out of hand and all my mom's friends have been NMN cult members or become one because of my mom. I don't want her to be an anti medicine anti vaxxer plzzzz 😭🙏🙏🙏😭🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
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Accidentally signed up for Primerica 1 hour ago. Help me get out!!
I just had a baby two weeks ago and posted in a local FB group about making some extra money since I got screwed out of my maternity leave.
I had this information session for a “financial company”.
I have never heard of Primerica and it sounded great. I went with the sign up and decided it was something I could do from home.
Well, when I was done and signed up I googled them and realized I fell for an MLM.
I’ve already called my bank and set up a stop payment anywhere from $25-150 (they said $124 (($99 for the license and $25 monthly fee)). But where do I go from here? I have a hard time saying no and am a people pleaser. So I feel like it’s going to break this poor girls heart who I signed up with and I already have multiple people from the company texting me.
I needed financial help, now I have a $35 stop payment fee and more stress than needed.
Please help!
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Vector
My husband is job hunting. He has a job but he's not happy there so he's looking. This morning he told me about a job on indeed he found called Vector Marketing. Soon as he said it I cut him off and said NO!! He's like let me finish. I'm like no, let me guess it's a call center or going door to door selling insanely expensive knives. He said how do you know? I said antimlm sub on Reddit. I'm not sure if it's a scam, mlm or what but it's not a legitimate sustainable job. I'd hate to see your quit a legitimate job.
So thanks.
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"This rich/successful person thinks I AM SPECIAL"
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Should I join Hegemon Group International Direct ($0 USD)
Want to help my friend but don't want to have anything to do with HGI.
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Need Genuine Advice on something
So it all began 5 years ago when my Uncle, who was living in Japan, moved back home to the US. Everything was going well and dandy when he came back (Besides a global virus going around called Covid) until early 2021 when he told me he met this guy named Mike at a Walmart. Now my Uncle is a very intelligent, kind, sincere guy who's always been interested in doing something entrepreneurial so when this Mike guy tells him he can achieve financial freedom, be a boss man and escape the 9-5 'Rat Race' he went all in. At the time, I didn't know anything about MLM's but my uncle told me the company was called Amway, and soon enough after I went on a zoom call with this Mike and was told all these amazing wonderful fucking lies about becoming Wealthy beyond my Wildest Dreams. So being a naive 21 year old self, who, like everyone, likes the idea of being rich, drank the Kool Aid. Next 2 months we did the zoom meetings, bought the material, invited ALL my friends onto it (We all laugh about it together now) it fell apart soon after. And even worse, I used both my stimulus checks of 1200$ to buy a bunch of Amway products that still to this day, I don't fucking touch. So anyways, we erase contact with this Mike guy, cut our losses, and move on. Happy Ending! Right guys? My uncle learned his lesson, all is well, he won't get sucked into another. Fast forward just a couple of months ago and I see this plaque on his wall. It was some kind of award, with the words 'Primerica' on it. I ask him what it's for, he told me that he went to Phoenix to collect the award, and that Primerica is a company that specializes in selling Life insurance and other financial products to help support people. Awesome, cool, I think to myself, 'Hey so some of them are having a potluck on Saturday if you wanna come by' he ask me and I said sure, I like free food. Wellll, what do you know, we walk in, friendly smiling people, everyone going to the Christmas tree to grab envelopes with cash inside (A holiday prize thing to honor people who sold the most/recruited the most) and I'm eating my food, feeling good, ready to go, 'This isn't so bad' I thought to myself and then what do you know, some speaker walks to the front talking about ALLLL the same things that Amway did with those code words. 'Financial Freedom, Bring friends and family into this amazing opportunity, yadda yadda'. Afterwards, I'm in his Mentors office, sitting across from this lady named Ali, a regional VP. This woman is scattered brained, all over the place, I ask her 'What is it I'd do? How much would i get paid?' Very valid questions on how this works, and I get nothing but vague lose awnsers, and I have to give them 99$ to become one of them, and pay 25$ every month to use their website bullshit. That's when I realize, I was brought in to sign up, 'Sorry don't got the money right now' I say. My uncle says that's okay, he'll pay for my 99$ entry fee, cool I guess. A week later my Uncle gets me in a zoom call with Ali, to talk more about the job and how I'd earn money and I kid you not, the whole time it was just a high pressure sales pitch for her to get my card information, social security number to pay 89$ a fucking month (as a healthy 25 year old) for their term life insurance. Which mind you, had a deadline on when it would run out. Now I don't know why I did this, I guess feeling sorry for my uncle, I gave them my card information, but, with a stroke of good luck, my credit card just got shot down the day before because of unrelated suspected fraud so they were never able to pull the money out. It's been a few months now, and I've probably gotten like 50 million calls from them to schedule my medical exam 😂🤣 Now my Uncle is finally ready to do a pre licensing exam, wants me to come to spend 9 hours with him on my weekdays, and enough is enough at this point. How do I convince him this shit is a scam? He's drinking the kool Aid viciously.
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Putting the MLM before the deity? Freudian slip?
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PM International FitLine cult has somehow infected my entire family.
Hello, I’m not really sure how to handle this. I myself have never been involved in MLM and didn’t have much to do with it, because I simply don’t like that I can’t buy a product directly and have to go through some random person.
For the past few weeks I’ve been back living at home (before that I was abroad for my studies), and my brother’s girlfriend has somehow “infected” everyone with FitLine—practically my whole family and even the entire village. (You have to admit, some people did lose a lot of weight; the program is basically a keto diet.) And she’s constantly trying to get me to join, but unfortunately I don’t have the “know-how” to argue exactly why FitLine is bad. They all talk about their NTC this and that, but I said that if FitLine were really so innovative, there would be published papers. And yet, even though the University of Luxembourg is somewhat involved, there aren’t any actual studies available.
Now I’m really wondering how to prepare for the next argumentative battle, because unfortunately it’s bound to happen—FitLine is always a topic of conversation.
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Defunct MLMs? still going strong in Canada
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More of the Kangen Castle Retreat.
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Classic Hun tactic
I am friends with 2 women on fb that are involved with an MLM. Within 15 minutes of each other, they posted “fb is hiding me again! Please say hello”
Naturally, people are replying cause they’re a) fellow Huns in on it or b) don’t realize this is just trying to reel them in.
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No matter what you're doing, be it at the hospital bedside of your mother, or celebrating your childs kindergarten graduation (seriously though, kindergarten graduation? What is the point?), ABS, always be scamming.
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I set up an interview
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Super Patch is a joke 😃
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They've made claims of a cure for dementia, ADHD, and now claims for balancing hormones, (”postpartum what!?”), “stubborn hormone belly”, “cancer, autoimmunity, sickness, and disease. What’s next?
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guys. it really is so simple.
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Our Experience with Amway recruiters!!!
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Which MLMs have you encountered in your existence?
I found this community via Savy Writes Books, and I thought I only knew MLMs from YouTube videos, but I did the math and realized I have actually come across them in my life. I was curious what other people's experiences were. Did someone try to recruit you? Did you get invited to a "spa day"? Did you get sucked into somebody's downline? What was the product? What did you think of it?
I've been through, I think, two. I say "I think" because I'm not sure about one of them. My interaction was vague--I recall one of my roommates had someone over doing some sort of demonstration of clothing. (Not Lularoe--this was probably before the company was founded, and at any rate, it was solid colors and not screamingly ugly prints.) I thought it was a pretty weird way to sell clothes, and suspected it was an MLM.
The second was at a product demo for The Pampered Chef. A dear friend of mine had hosted it on behalf of a consultant (or whatever they call them) that she knew. I don't think she was actively involved. (If she was, she certainly isn't anymore.) I won a door prize of a sort of miniature whisk that was ostensibly for stirring drinks, but was terrific for scrambling one or two eggs. I still have it. I think the consultant may have said something about a "business opportunity", and I may have thought "ah." When I had to move back into my folks' place after the dot-com bubble collapse, the little whisk ended up in my mom's kitchen drawer and my mom loved it. I didn't have the info for the person I'd gotten it from, so we looked it up on the website and got one there (hey! You can just sell things online instead of exploiting people!) Once we'd placed the order, we got the name of our consultant and never used it. We got our cheap whisk and left.
So, that's my MLM story. What's yours?
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Modere huns to shaklee
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Arieyl gives you back your *DREAMS*
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MLM in Italia: raccontami la tua esperienza
Ciao, sto scrivendo un articolo per la rivista Prismag sul network marketing come setta commerciale e la manipolazione della fede religiosa che fanno per reclutare e mantenere le persone all'interno del programma.
Mi farebbe piacere intervistare qualcuno, anche in anonimo, per l'articolo e farmi raccontare la sua esperienza; non è strettamente necessaria la parte riguardante la fede, anche se mi piacerebbe esplorare questo aspetto, di cui in Italia non si parla molto. Scrivetemi pure in dm, ogni aiuto è apprezzato.
Inoltre, sto anche cercando persone esperte sui meccanismi psicologici delle sette che possano offrire la loro opinione professionale al riguardo.
Vi ringrazio
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Scentsy Gal Spotted in the wild
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My random storytime of a weird exchange online. Found out later, they're a Seint rep surprise face
This is long and starts having nothing to do with MLM but ended that way. I cant tell if these types of people end up as a MLM rep or if their delusions of grandeur come after they start. Anyone have a random story like this? I wish I could share her IG lol but I blocked her. 👍😂
I was researching hair stuff (products). I came across an IG hairstylist. Her posts seemed to be informative: use this/not that, new cutting technique, etc. Well...just so happens, I cut a few inches off today for some old damage, it's a blunt cut for sure. Well, she posted (an older post) about a cutting technique to add volume without cutting layers. I take that as either advice for cosmetologists or for the average person to ask their stylist about. Anyways, I commented and asked her if she thinks it would work for a particular type of hair (my type, with a recent blunt cut -- I didnt go in on a whole story about my hair or how I wanted it). That is all I asked. She said no, not for crooked hair. TF?! Who said crooked? And I don't have any recent pics on my IG. She immediately was snarky. I said, no, it's not crooked but blunt so it needs a lil something. She was very dismissive, saying no. I comment back that I was sorry to bother her, I was just asking 🤷♀️ I didn't ask her to go into great detail. She posted it (meaning the informational cutting technique post). I just want to make it clear. Her technique was very simple. Take a mohawk section of hair on your partline but do a zag part...use thinning shears..boom done. I just had a question about that. This was not an in depth tutorial.
She then says I can make an appointment...implying I shut tf up. As if, I was gonna take her fabulous information elsewhere. 😂 I said no, I have epilepsy, I cant head halfway across the country. Of course, I didnt come across snarky because if I'm nice and she's arguing then she'll look nuts. She comes back with a vibe like I was begging her for help and she cant fix a haircut online (implying she can't do it for free, babes 🙄). She was saying, "I answered your question". Yeah you did in an ahole way. After that exchange, I sit back with myself to reflect, reread what I wrote. I checked my tone. I talked to her no differently than I would my parents and I dont play about respect. So I read through a couple more posts of hers. She definitely does that regularly. Another person had a "wtf just happened?!" comment towards her after an unwarranted one-sided hateful exchange. So not just me. So I know girlfriend is...well...something is up. I look through a bit more...she's a Seint rep. Well there ya go folks.
#1 if being a Seint rep OR a great hairstylist is so lucrative, bossbabe, why are you doing both?
#2 after reading comments on that particular post regarding that voluminous hair cutting trick/hack, I saw other stylists like wtf is that?!
Another thought, does being a MLM rep make you gatekeep crap? I mean does she not want people interested in hair stuff (techniques, tricks, tip, etc) that arent from her area? I mean, girl, you are on the INTERNET! Not everyone who sees you on IG is gonna go to your salon. I feel like it's opposite day. Why would you post to an online place to get people interesred and then turn around and, essentially, say, "....stop being interested!"
Delusions of grandeur. Thank gawd I dont live near her..could you imagine if you were her client (in the chair or for Seint) or her downline?!
See if Seint was the least bit trustworthy, one of her uplines would be saying something to her about her attitude. Imagine if you worked for a legit company who was in customer service...working with the public is a pretty big deal.
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PHP salesperson came to my job and invited me to an event? Should I go?
If I do go, what should I expect?
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doTERRA Survivor
I’m a clinical aromatherapist who started out with doTERRA. Left as I was in university for essential oils. The way they have you use them is dangerous. The structure of the biz is set up to profit those on top. You’re required to purchase 150$ a month in product or you don’t get paid. That’s how those on top make their money. You make pennies from sales, it’s recruiting that makes you money. Getting those under you to buy their monthly 150$. I worked like a dog and when I asked for help or complained, I was told I was the problem. I needed faith in the product. Use more product. Take more of their personal development courses, for a fee. Attend conventions, for a fee. Go to their events, for a fee. “Invest in yourself by investing in your biz.” Meanwhile when the Feds came down on them in 2014 doTERRA threw their “Wellness Advocates” under the bus and blamed us. I walked. Best decision ever.
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