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There is a theory that Div, a deity mentioned in the Tale of Igor’s Campaign, was a God of Sky. The two lines mentioning Div in TIC go as follows:
Div calls from the treetop, orders unknown land to listen
(дивъ кличетъ връху древа, велитъ послушати земли незнаемѣ)
Div already fell on the land
(уже връжеса дивь на землю)
As you can see in both Div is mentioned alongside land (ground/field depending on the translation). This support the theory of Div being a Sky God paired with Earth Goddess.
The Mythology Of Universalism
One of the mistakes many people in the field of comparative mythology make is erroneously using linguistics to build a cosmological framework that unifies various mythologies.
Words, names, and titles are naturally polysemic; that is, they contain within them the possibility of multiple meanings.
For a simple example of this, consider the word "Tyr," which, depending on context, may refer to a single God, a specific god, and could even be used as a name or even a title of a god or deity.
Linguistic arguments are the weakest form of argument in comparative mythology, especially when the architecture of the linguistic field is entirely based on speculation. These fields and subjects, while a serious and very helpful field of study, are entirely based on theories.
It is disingenuous for anyone to claim a definitive cosmological structure by basing their assertions on a theoretical linguistic connection between two different cultures completely separated by time and geographic distance.
Comparative mythologists also make a mistake by assuming correlations in mythological structures as the very basis of their methodology. Even the most rigid comparativist falls prey to confirmation bias. Instead of understanding differences, they often hyperfocus on small points of similarities that conform to their preconceived notions.
Instead of understanding the belief from within the spiritual/cultural context the mythology is native too, the modern comparativist offers a theoretical worldview by automatically assuming a shared origin from the very beginning of their research into the mythology. There is no objective truth in this method of study despite what is claimed. The theories often asserted are subjective from the outset of study when the comparativist begins looking for similarities. This methodology is used to create theoretical mythologies that transform native cosmologies into a universal belief system. This method by itself is a logical fallacy.
This fallacy can be likened to one seeing a field of flowers and instead of seeing a field of roses, dandelions, sunflowers etc. ; one only sees a field of flowers.
If you need a non-modern example of universalistic paganism look at cicero
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Speaking of non-ethnically exclusive ethnic religions, nowadays there’s an artificial, (((academia))) promoted pan-Paganism. Obviously they don’t want us having any real Blood and Soil religion, so there’s a coordinated attempt to create a new strain of abrahamism rebranded as something pre-christian. Call it perennialism, platonism, evolian/guénonian traditionalism, soft paganism etc etc. In essence it’s all the same. Trying to remove the ethnic exclusivity and belief in real Gods replacing the latter with abstract archetypes (Sky-Father, Thunderer etc).
The trick they use is turning comparison into equation e.g. Japanese Susanoo fought a giant snake, Germanic Thor fought a giant snake=>they are basically the same.
Of course promoters of this idea refer to heretics like socrates-plato, cicero etc.
Come to think of it christianity is an ethnic religion, since it’s jewish (bible’s characters are jews and the main events take place on jewish lands) but it’s not ethnically exclusive (anyone can larp as jews).
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Triumph of Time
John Elliott
Truly, it can be said that mountain men are closer to Pagan Revivalism than most
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What some newcomers to Paganism don’t realize is that rejecting everything christian is not enough and can even lead to loosing some Pagan elements (e.g. kneeling). We have to learn to separate negative theology in general, not only abrahamic sects. There were many subversive cults back in the day and some of them predate christianity. Just being BC is not a guarantee. Example: Stoics came before christians, yet they were not Pagan at all. Marcus Aurelius was one and he completely contradicted Hellenic belief about afterlife.
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The moon is beautiful tonight
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Nixie in the Goldfish Pond
Franz Hein
The "declaration of deeds" is an attempt by fake pagans to introduce woke gibberish into real Germanic paganism. The only way they can do it is by rejecting real Germanic paganism:
We endeavor to be better than our forebears. Their society was a product of its time and was often deeply flawed, but their religious belief in the gods we hold to be timeless. We endeavor to reconstruct their religion, not the flaws in their society.
This is heresy, but it's actually an improvement. They used to simply deny that historical heathens were sexist, homophobic, etc. They seem to understand that they've lost that debate. Now the play is to try and separate Germanic religion from Germanic culture, as though it's something you can just cut and paste on to modern liberal tastes.
This is indefensible and they have retreated. They know they're losing.
Chapter four of Sallustius’ treatise, On the Gods and the Worlds, the platonist refers to the legends of the Gods as mere fables (animalistic as the platonist says). This is from the same individual who wrote that "the myths are things that never happened."
The platonism to atheism pipeline runs both ways, it seems. The more platonic one becomes, the more atheistic. Likewise, as atheism is losing its power, and our Folk return to their true roots, they rush to platonism to LARP as "my fellow pagans" while belittling the beliefs we hold.
You notice this when they try to describe Egyptian religion and the God Osiris as being humidity for some reason. No Egyptian ever considered Osiris to be humidity, ever. Nevertheless, it reveals that these platonic philosophers do not take Traditional Pagan Faiths seriously, neither in antiquity or in the present day. The willingness to employ straw-men (noble lies) and literal r/atheism arguments hasn't gone unnoticed. In fact, some platonists admit this privately:
Comparing all these facts we can only reach one conclusion, the christianization of Vyatichi and their region did not occur immediately but was a long development, a gradual and very slow one, not ubiquitous, since there were still tenacious pagans in Mtsenks up to the XV c.
Metropolitan bishop Alexy (Konoplev)
In 1114 a priest named Kuksha Pechersky was sent to the lands of Vyatichi to preach christianity. He was killed by the locals the same year which made him one of saint martyrs.
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Another translation coming soon. The text is small, but valuable. Will be on the same topic as before (how supposedly christian Europe stayed Pagan)
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Will translate a lot of new research on Div. An obscure Slavic deity mentioned in The Tale of Igor’s Campaign.
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O'Gravy does not worship gods; he worships the comparative method, by which he hopes to reconstruct Celtic paganism. Like him, I too am disappointed by the fact that Celtic paganism is unreconstructable, but the answer is not to create a sprawling, elaborate metaphysical cope that lets us pretend that it's not. His "method" draws absolutely no bounds between any tradition whatsoever, and can be used to conclude anything at all, which is precisely what he needs it to do.
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Among the active promoters of non-ethnically exclusive Paganism many are literal jews or their servants e.g. boaz villalonga (aka modern platonist) and tom rowsell (aka STJ).
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Someone forwarded me a video claiming to "debunk" the Axial age. The Axial age is an influential thesis with a large body of scientific literature and empirical support, much of that literature written since the Seshat database opened a decade ago. On the "yes there was an Axial age" side of the ledger we have:
- transition from emphasis on religious orthopraxy (rite-focused, exoteric) to orthodoxy (inward/attitude-focused, doctrinal)
- transition from Weberian "magical" religious paradigms to Weberian "ethical" religious paradigms
- new "big gods" appear (transcendent moralizing deities concerned with minute human affairs)
- law/morality/religion begin to address themselves to all men
- de-territorialization of religion — "God" is everywhere
- man becomes free to choose which deity to worship — no longer bound to ethnic/tribal gods
- shame culture (external, social locus of moral authority) gives way to guilt culture (internal, individual)
- rise of asceticism — de-emphasis on this-worldly goods as object of highest interest
- linear history appears
On the "no there wasn't an Axial age" side we have the claim that all Indo-European religions knew "The Absolute". The evidence:
- although clear evidence of such knowledge enters many centuries after the historical record opens (in any branch), we suspect this knowledge was hidden
- related concepts (e.g. Brahman, karma) only took on the connotation of The Absolute later, but secretly they always meant this
- there was a big-thing-at-the-beginning in all IE mythologies, this must have been The Absolute
The comparative method is extremely powerful, but used incautiously it can also produce a lot of noise. None of what is claimed on the "no" side would pass muster in a real academic department. A doctorate supervisor would, right at the proposal stage, reject the thesis that the PIEs had the "Axial acquisitions". Even the minority of anthropologists who reject the Axial age do so not because they're trying to push neoplatonism back into the Bronze age, but for precisely the opposite reason—because too many non-IE cultures went through the same transition later.
The Axial age is just the time when the list of things above happened for the first time. To debunk it you'd have to dispute that, and no serious person does.
Nice definition. You can also replace the word Paganism with something like an Ethnic religion or Traditional religion, but let’s be real Pagan is the most popular term and there’s no reason to drop it just because christians use the word as an insult.
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One of the most baffling things is the amount of open, honest subversives in the right circles. You’d think that people would at least catch up to obvious shills like Shapiro, Dugin, Peterson, Jones etc. The majority are sheep even one the right side.
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American frontiersman is one of many examples of Aryan spirit and deserves respect.
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Imagine thinking that socrates (a freak and a heretic) had a better insight into the nature of the Gods than Homer, who was divine himself.
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Honor the peasants, for they are the finest among the nation
Martha Elisabeth Fossel
Thanks for 7K btw. Officially a big channel now (I guess).
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Custom handmade Mjolnir by a friend who has a since passed away.
Hail mighty Thor the bane of the Jötuns and protector of Miðgarðr!
In the very centre of the Vyatichi lands Mtsensk city (Oryol Governorate) paganism struggled fiercely with christianity and one modern legend dates the conversion of locals to the early XV c. This is how the events are in the legend: in 1415 during the reign of grand king Vasily I Dmitriyevich, son of Donskoy, the citizens of Mtsensk did not recognize the true God yet, which is why that year He and Metropolitan Photius sent priests with many armies to lead the locals to the true faith.
Жур.Мин.В.Д. 1837г. стр.107, 108.
Defending their political independence Vyatichi also stood up for their pagan religion. Living in thick forests, Vyatichi kept their customs, morals and laws for a long time.
Describing the morals of Vyatichi reverend Nestor the Chronicler calls them beasts who live in the woods, eat all food, have no shame, no piety, pagans who don’t know the god’s laws.
Metropolitan bishop Alexy (Konoplev)
It was customary for our ancestors to sacrifice valuable weapons and tools. Archeological findings within prominent rivers and bogs confirm this practice.
The above photo is my own sacrifice. Deposited into a prominent river alongside the grove I worship in.