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A place for Aryan (European) Folkish Pagans
O'Gravy does not worship gods; he worships the comparative method, by which he hopes to reconstruct Celtic paganism. Like him, I too am disappointed by the fact that Celtic paganism is unreconstructable, but the answer is not to create a sprawling, elaborate metaphysical cope that lets us pretend that it's not. His "method" draws absolutely no bounds between any tradition whatsoever, and can be used to conclude anything at all, which is precisely what he needs it to do.
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Among the active promoters of non-ethnically exclusive Paganism many are literal jews or their servants e.g. boaz villalonga (aka modern platonist) and tom rowsell (aka STJ).
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Someone forwarded me a video claiming to "debunk" the Axial age. The Axial age is an influential thesis with a large body of scientific literature and empirical support, much of that literature written since the Seshat database opened a decade ago. On the "yes there was an Axial age" side of the ledger we have:
- transition from emphasis on religious orthopraxy (rite-focused, exoteric) to orthodoxy (inward/attitude-focused, doctrinal)
- transition from Weberian "magical" religious paradigms to Weberian "ethical" religious paradigms
- new "big gods" appear (transcendent moralizing deities concerned with minute human affairs)
- law/morality/religion begin to address themselves to all men
- de-territorialization of religion — "God" is everywhere
- man becomes free to choose which deity to worship — no longer bound to ethnic/tribal gods
- shame culture (external, social locus of moral authority) gives way to guilt culture (internal, individual)
- rise of asceticism — de-emphasis on this-worldly goods as object of highest interest
- linear history appears
On the "no there wasn't an Axial age" side we have the claim that all Indo-European religions knew "The Absolute". The evidence:
- although clear evidence of such knowledge enters many centuries after the historical record opens (in any branch), we suspect this knowledge was hidden
- related concepts (e.g. Brahman, karma) only took on the connotation of The Absolute later, but secretly they always meant this
- there was a big-thing-at-the-beginning in all IE mythologies, this must have been The Absolute
The comparative method is extremely powerful, but used incautiously it can also produce a lot of noise. None of what is claimed on the "no" side would pass muster in a real academic department. A doctorate supervisor would, right at the proposal stage, reject the thesis that the PIEs had the "Axial acquisitions". Even the minority of anthropologists who reject the Axial age do so not because they're trying to push neoplatonism back into the Bronze age, but for precisely the opposite reason—because too many non-IE cultures went through the same transition later.
The Axial age is just the time when the list of things above happened for the first time. To debunk it you'd have to dispute that, and no serious person does.
Nice definition. You can also replace the word Paganism with something like an Ethnic religion or Traditional religion, but let’s be real Pagan is the most popular term and there’s no reason to drop it just because christians use the word as an insult.
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One of the most baffling things is the amount of open, honest subversives in the right circles. You’d think that people would at least catch up to obvious shills like Shapiro, Dugin, Peterson, Jones etc. The majority are sheep even one the right side.
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American frontiersman is one of many examples of Aryan spirit and deserves respect.
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Imagine thinking that socrates (a freak and a heretic) had a better insight into the nature of the Gods than Homer, who was divine himself.
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Honor the peasants, for they are the finest among the nation
Martha Elisabeth Fossel
Thanks for 7K btw. Officially a big channel now (I guess).
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Custom handmade Mjolnir by a friend who has a since passed away.
Hail mighty Thor the bane of the Jötuns and protector of Miðgarðr!
In the very centre of the Vyatichi lands Mtsensk city (Oryol Governorate) paganism struggled fiercely with christianity and one modern legend dates the conversion of locals to the early XV c. This is how the events are in the legend: in 1415 during the reign of grand king Vasily I Dmitriyevich, son of Donskoy, the citizens of Mtsensk did not recognize the true God yet, which is why that year He and Metropolitan Photius sent priests with many armies to lead the locals to the true faith.
Жур.Мин.В.Д. 1837г. стр.107, 108.
Defending their political independence Vyatichi also stood up for their pagan religion. Living in thick forests, Vyatichi kept their customs, morals and laws for a long time.
Describing the morals of Vyatichi reverend Nestor the Chronicler calls them beasts who live in the woods, eat all food, have no shame, no piety, pagans who don’t know the god’s laws.
Metropolitan bishop Alexy (Konoplev)
It was customary for our ancestors to sacrifice valuable weapons and tools. Archeological findings within prominent rivers and bogs confirm this practice.
The above photo is my own sacrifice. Deposited into a prominent river alongside the grove I worship in.
Herodotus' story of the tyrant Polycrates contains a folk-tale motif which is still current. When King Amasis heard of Polycrates' exceptional good luck he advised him to offset it by throwing away something which he valued very highly.
Polycrates obeyed and threw a costly ring into the sea, but it was found again in the stomach of a fish which was brought to him a few days later by a fisherman. When Amasis heard this he renounced so dangerous a friendship, and Polycrates ended his life on the cross.
M.Nilsson
If you need a non-modern example of universalistic paganism look at cicero
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Speaking of non-ethnically exclusive ethnic religions, nowadays there’s an artificial, (((academia))) promoted pan-Paganism. Obviously they don’t want us having any real Blood and Soil religion, so there’s a coordinated attempt to create a new strain of abrahamism rebranded as something pre-christian. Call it perennialism, platonism, evolian/guénonian traditionalism, soft paganism etc etc. In essence it’s all the same. Trying to remove the ethnic exclusivity and belief in real Gods replacing the latter with abstract archetypes (Sky-Father, Thunderer etc).
The trick they use is turning comparison into equation e.g. Japanese Susanoo fought a giant snake, Germanic Thor fought a giant snake=>they are basically the same.
Of course promoters of this idea refer to heretics like socrates-plato, cicero etc.
Come to think of it christianity is an ethnic religion, since it’s jewish (bible’s characters are jews and the main events take place on jewish lands) but it’s not ethnically exclusive (anyone can larp as jews).
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Triumph of Time
John Elliott
Truly, it can be said that mountain men are closer to Pagan Revivalism than most
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What some newcomers to Paganism don’t realize is that rejecting everything christian is not enough and can even lead to loosing some Pagan elements (e.g. kneeling). We have to learn to separate negative theology in general, not only abrahamic sects. There were many subversive cults back in the day and some of them predate christianity. Just being BC is not a guarantee. Example: Stoics came before christians, yet they were not Pagan at all. Marcus Aurelius was one and he completely contradicted Hellenic belief about afterlife.
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The moon is beautiful tonight
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Nixie in the Goldfish Pond
Franz Hein
The "declaration of deeds" is an attempt by fake pagans to introduce woke gibberish into real Germanic paganism. The only way they can do it is by rejecting real Germanic paganism:
We endeavor to be better than our forebears. Their society was a product of its time and was often deeply flawed, but their religious belief in the gods we hold to be timeless. We endeavor to reconstruct their religion, not the flaws in their society.
This is heresy, but it's actually an improvement. They used to simply deny that historical heathens were sexist, homophobic, etc. They seem to understand that they've lost that debate. Now the play is to try and separate Germanic religion from Germanic culture, as though it's something you can just cut and paste on to modern liberal tastes.
This is indefensible and they have retreated. They know they're losing.
Chapter four of Sallustius’ treatise, On the Gods and the Worlds, the platonist refers to the legends of the Gods as mere fables (animalistic as the platonist says). This is from the same individual who wrote that "the myths are things that never happened."
The platonism to atheism pipeline runs both ways, it seems. The more platonic one becomes, the more atheistic. Likewise, as atheism is losing its power, and our Folk return to their true roots, they rush to platonism to LARP as "my fellow pagans" while belittling the beliefs we hold.
You notice this when they try to describe Egyptian religion and the God Osiris as being humidity for some reason. No Egyptian ever considered Osiris to be humidity, ever. Nevertheless, it reveals that these platonic philosophers do not take Traditional Pagan Faiths seriously, neither in antiquity or in the present day. The willingness to employ straw-men (noble lies) and literal r/atheism arguments hasn't gone unnoticed. In fact, some platonists admit this privately:
Comparing all these facts we can only reach one conclusion, the christianization of Vyatichi and their region did not occur immediately but was a long development, a gradual and very slow one, not ubiquitous, since there were still tenacious pagans in Mtsenks up to the XV c.
Metropolitan bishop Alexy (Konoplev)
In 1114 a priest named Kuksha Pechersky was sent to the lands of Vyatichi to preach christianity. He was killed by the locals the same year which made him one of saint martyrs.
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Another translation coming soon. The text is small, but valuable. Will be on the same topic as before (how supposedly christian Europe stayed Pagan)
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Similar idea (throwing valuables away) existed in ancient Germanic and Celtic tradition too.
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The conceptions of hybris and nemesis had a popular background in what the Greeks called baskania, the belief, still common in southern Europe, that excessive praise is dangerous and a cause of misfortune. Even we are accustomed to saying "touch wood" if things go exceptionally well with us. It was customary, and is so still, to avert such a danger by spitting into one's bosom or by making an obscene gesture. The impressive scene in the Agamemnon of Aeschylus, in which the king fears to tread on purple carpets when entering his palace lest the envy of some evil eye should harm him, is taken from real life.
M.Nilsson