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Bitcoin Dev

#BTC 107000-106000區域多
止損 105000

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I am also checking the I2P settings. Like if the router or the ISP is blocking something.

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I think my node only uses I2P network and takes forever to sync.

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geyser.fund might help

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Would love to get feedback from fellow BitcoinDevs / BitcoinMaxis how you would approach a Bitcoin native funding process with all logic of collecting VC but just decentralised and no shit coins involved. We basically want to accelerate Bitcoin adoption as much as humanly and technologically possible.

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Hi, is anyone familiar with
• Lightning-native authentication or access models (e.g. LNURL-pay / LNURL-auth)
• Snapshot-based BTC distribution (e.g. via address map or PSBT system)
• Taproot-based commitment schemes
• Liquid-issued assets (less preferred due to trade-offs)
• Possibly even Nostr-based participation tracking
?

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not sure, you can reach out and ask them

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https://www.lopp.net/bitcoin-information/recommended-wallets.html#recoveryservices

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imo that's not solid security; you won't always achieve adequate entropy; subject to brute dictionary attack; plausibly llm's could even be used in exploit if part of your recovery phrase was known. stick with BIP39 standard when choosing seeds and choose 15+ randomly from the 2048 listed

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its a futile fight, take the win by collecting their full fees and not poluting the chain less with less unspent utxos to increase security of everyone

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expiration, pruning, size*time fees, and shared mining rewards... then we have hard coded abuse prevention feedback mechanisms instead of a free for all

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can we split the fees generated by OP_RETURN data over the next n blocks where n is tied to the size of the OP_RETURN?

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I have coded some stuff and shit projects on ordinals and runes etc.
Now I found them like... they are adding rubbish inside bitcoin full nodes imo...

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https://antoinep.com/posts/relay_policy_drama/

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Yeah it removes links and @'s. Fixed it for you

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Because even I2P torrents are terrible slow. I tried to download bitcoin core torrent using I2P and got like 3KB/s.

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do we have enough nodes in the i2p cluster? because

No. Unlike Tor, "exit nodes" - or "outproxies" as they are referred to on the I2P network - are not an inherent part of the network.

https://geti2p.net/en/faq#exit

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When using onlynet=onion and onlynet=i2p. The node will use both? Or use just one of them, like the last entered in the bitcoin.conf?

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Sounds like you're looking for a crowdfunding solution like https://hub.angor.io/

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We are a team of 4 Engineers&Bitcoin Maxis who seek VC but decentralised and are exploring Bitcoin-native solutions

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to analyze the drive check

https://sleuthkit.org/autopsy/docs/user-docs/4.22.0/

to generate a list of potential keys for your recovery phrase try:

https://pastebin.com/VTvgRun3

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Which is the one to go to with a broken hard disc? Got a friend with some in mycelium wallet and broken Samsung Galaxy notepad. Needs serious lab work probably. Couldn't get to it with home equipment.

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I lost access to my wallet. I need this particular application. To repeat the key generation. I guarantee a reward.

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Good time of day. Tell me, I can't remember what kind of Bitcoin wallet it was. The master key/private key was generated from text using the brain wallet type. It was possible to choose the number of words for the initial phrase. As an example for a brain wallet, a text about sakura and cherry blossoms in the wind during rain was given.

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whenever you do any of this, people will just stop using OP_RETURN and use other more "destructive" methods to encode data

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If we can implement expiration can we charge fees of size*duration?

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can we implement expiration and scheduled pruning on OP_RETURN data?

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Bitcoin is incentive incompatible in a strict sense (e g., IBD is a public good, yet purely rational nodes should all prune). However, to make Bitcoin more robust for the future we should be making it as close to incentive compatibility as possible.

This means accepting inscriptions and other forms of spam to the extent that they pay the required fee rate. Similar to the case with RBF, it isn't stable to rely on altruistic behavior. Anyway, it can't get worse than 4M WU per block (which, for opteturns concretely, it's below average block size).

That PR is 100% consistent with the refusal to "fix the filters". If we aren't fixing it it's preferable to remove the functionality, because OP_RETURN is the least polluting way to put data.

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What's this new talk of removing OP_RETURN restrictions?

https://groups.google.com/g/bitcoindev/c/d6ZO7gXGYbQ

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32359

Because client side hackers find exploits to stuff tidbits of data on chain - albeit it some of it useful - now we're going to roll out the red carpet to this activity for porn kings to graffiti the chain with externalities that nodes will have to store forever?

I find the notion of 32359 (and the decade long conversation) akin to saying we're going to get rid of pimpslapper and hal9000 in telegram chats because sometimes hackers find ways to send spam to the groups anyway.

@satoshi why did you switch sides on this ? we have a whole ecosystem of shitcoins to store data on. Why does bitcoin need this feature? how does this increase adoption as a global currency?

I don't think the price of hardware will scale as fast as chain bloat without limits on OP_RETURN. Shoot from the hip.. lets say we have 500GB chain now... we keep OP_RETURN 83bytes as is we're going to have 2TB chain in 20 years and hobby Bitcoin nodes are still a thing. We make OP_RETURN unlimited (4MB) and maybe we have 200-500TB chain and only big business can run a node.

is Bitcoin still Bitcoin if "running a node" has a $10k-50k SSD requirement?

And for what? To carry illicit graffiti? To be another EVM? A permanent pornhub for 4MB videos?

Is bitcoin a replacement for fiat currency or a do everything machine? Is a do everything machine ever as good as do one thing well machine?

Are we willing to risk forking the community? Which will be the "real bitocin" the one that adopts unlimited OP_RETURN or the original?

Are developers spending time focusing on privacy features and scaling fees down by introducing unlimited OP_RETURN? How does that fit why cypherpunk core values?

What happens when there is illicit data not broken in chunks but just there and raw on every node and fedgov gets involved? Its poking the sleeping tiger. The essence is supposed to be to use technology to make ourselves ungovernable not to use tech to taunt governance and call out their wrath.

What happens when someone figures out how to embed KYC into OP_RETURN and suddenly all the coins are traceable through every individual they touch?

Is it an enclusive financial ecosystem for all if small actors are priced out in fee terms by large actors hogging whole blocks?

What happens if this sudden change causes DoS attacks or network partitions?

What happens when fees are low during crypto winter and the graffiti gets thick? Come summer we all have new spam bloat to handle - forever? Now I want to send my coin to exchange on sell day and fees are $500 at the peak?

Are we sure that 4MB scripts embedded in OP_RETURN won't have security implications for everyone?

Is this or is this not a disruptive change that harm community cohesion?

Does anyone even remember the cyphernomicon? Please reread section 2.3

"totally anonymous, unlinkable"

unlimited OP_RETURN turns Bitcoin into a state business and a state surveillance machine

If KYC’d OP_RETURN data taints UTXOs, even privacy-conscious users could be exposed, contradicting voluntary, private transactions (Cyphernomicon 2.3.3).

I'd like to also toss an echo of the past into this OP_RETURN discussion... do you remember bitDNS?

https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/posts/bitcointalk/535/

"separate fates"

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admin wtf your bot deletes everything I post

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