Holo

12 Oct 2024 20:10

Please go @holotroopers for this 🙏

Holo

12 Oct 2024 10:02

Relay is not publicly available atm

Holo

12 Oct 2024 05:21

Is there a link for the latest relay app to be used on android phones that Mary has mentioned? I can start spreading it around if so. Thankyou

Holo

12 Oct 2024 00:59

any news regarding the extended test?

Holo

12 Oct 2024 00:49

No need to explain Holochain :) but thnx. In my opinion its not the same tho 😆 i was mostly wondering why you (and others) use the term decentralized instead of distributed. Maybe some other folks in here can answer this aswell in their way. @NATHANLENAE does Holochain see an important key difference here? Of do you also think its the same cookie?

Holo

12 Oct 2024 00:45

Better in efficiency. What is better for the planet also. I could even say that it's still legit to run a global consensus just to claim that this value is this value and forever will be this value, but first of all, you can have the same with Holochain (no one knows if one of the happs/chains will be even bigger than the BTC user base for example or Google or whatever) and second its just more limited. You can achieve the same with holochain and much more and it's much easier to pack.

Holo

12 Oct 2024 00:41

Btw ive noticed you are not the only one

Holo

12 Oct 2024 00:34

I invite you to join the Velveteen Network, an innovative and decentralized space built on Holochain technology. VelvetNet is a vast digital ecosystem where you can communicate, share files, listen to music, explore art galleries, participate in digital marketplaces, and much more. As a Holochain hApp, the network is fully decentralized—each user runs their own part of the network on their device, without relying on central servers. All interactions are continuously validated through an advanced cryptographic system, ensuring privacy and security. This is a new concept of a digital community, where collaboration and sharing happen autonomously and in real time.

If you are a dev and/or interested to know more find us at,
the Weave:
https://theweave.social/wal?weave-0.12://invite/3d1a71ba-fbe2-4aec-bf98-3b22455d6f44&progenitor=uhCAkS5loTHkaVtIwiCSkC1fdDuT9Vbuvhj4up8cBB6kxuvnUR7xq

Meet me there,
Cpt. DioAlma Velveteen.

Holo

11 Oct 2024 22:33

About joining the upcoming CS game 🕹️.

Holo

11 Oct 2024 21:59

Hey everyone who should I contact for Effective advertising and collaboration proposal?

Holo

30 Sep 2024 18:35

What if our technology and economics serve our ecosystems and society? Listen to Mary Camacho, and Pete Corke, Director of Vision & Leadership at Kwaxala, talk about building economic systems based on living nature. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXo5iaQvcfk

Holo

30 Sep 2024 13:05

Calamari in tomato sauce with noodles :)

Holo

30 Sep 2024 11:40

That should be story points

Holo

30 Sep 2024 11:08

I'm cooking at the moment, could not write that much at the moment..

Holo

30 Sep 2024 10:57

i am always suspicious of plans to tokenise the natural world as they could just create a mechanism for big bankers to buy up the world..Ven cryptocurrency initially had a plan to do this... the kwaxala website has a lot of nice sounding words and after reading i still dont know the structure of their project...maybe they should have a competition like holochain did to describe the project in 140 characters or less

Holo

12 Oct 2024 10:19

Gm Folks!☕ Interesting thread, reading the different perspectives and ideas around decentralized vs distributed. I do like @holyshibby point, about "agent-centricity" being a big part in the conversation

I will be checking out the theweave group @dioalma

To get more info about the Counter strike tournament I'll add you to a group, DM me your x.com account if you are active there.

Holo

12 Oct 2024 10:01

Distributed systems are widely adopted and used in most modern software applications. Social media apps, video streaming services, e-commerce sites, and more are all based on distributed systems. Centralized systems naturally evolve into distributed systems to handle scalability. But ownership (let's say that to make it clear) is central.
But if I say: Holochain is decentralized, it is implicitly understood that it is also distributed. A decentralized thing (so that does not have a central "property") is obviously also distributed

Holo

12 Oct 2024 04:03

I would say that agent-centricity is the more interesting thing to focus on when discussing what makes hc different. Cpt Velveteen alluded to it in their first reply when they mentioned consensus.

That image above doesn't really add much value in my opinion. Decentralised and distributed aren't in opposition and both qualities can be present at the same time. As far as I'm concerned, centralisation is concerned with control/ownership/responsibility, whereas distribution is more concerned with locality.

Holo

12 Oct 2024 00:50

What i see in this picture is hierarchy vs heterarchy

Holo

12 Oct 2024 00:47

Yeah and then there's the still centralized relays and what not that Blockchain depends on like this picture shows.

Holo

12 Oct 2024 00:42

Decentralized and destributed is the same thing in my eyes. The comparison you usually hear refers to the fact that Blockchains even if they are decentralized they seek for global consensus, while holochain validation method is distributed thru an infinite amount of ledgers. So its also decentralized but better:)

Holo

12 Oct 2024 00:40

Hi, i have a question here.. you use the word decentralized right. But ive learned Holochain is distributed? Thats what makes it different from blockchain? Can you eleborate on this? Thnx 🤞

Holo

11 Oct 2024 22:52

You can send a PM to @NATHANLENAE

Holo

11 Oct 2024 22:32

Where can I find more info about this?

Holo

30 Sep 2024 20:25

So, i was checking this again and it sounds like a crucial part. Is it something that is almost solved or is it a much larger problem than anticipated?

Holo

30 Sep 2024 13:06

Ah, okay; thank you for the clarification :)

Holo

30 Sep 2024 11:42

You can't tell how long it will take, but you can tell that the work load will be more or less than other issues. So you use story points instead.

Holo

30 Sep 2024 11:13

Oh! What are you cooking?

Holo

30 Sep 2024 11:07

That's also a mystery for me. Don't know. Task number 5 for example is definitely over the estimated 13, if days would have meant :D

Holo

30 Sep 2024 10:54

And “estimate” is in hrs, days, weeks? Or does it indicate something else?