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Return to the Academy?
My conspiracy theory is that this series will end with Kovethe (I know the spelling is wrong.) returning to the academy and the last chapter will be him doing an entrance exam again and is admitted for -3 coin again and Kovethe feels accepted and loved again.
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Vorfelan Rhinata Morie
This is just a nerdy appreciation post about something that is both inside and outside the books. It's pretty neat, I've tried pointing at this in the past but I'm hoping to do a better job with presentation this time around.
I'll save the KKC scene for last, but first we need two background stories. The first is "Archaic Torso of Apollo". The story itself isn't as relevant as to how Rilke got the inspiration for it.
>Transformation is also a major theme in Rilke's poetry as the last line in his "Archaic Torso of Apollo" (1908)— "You must change your life." Rilke's interaction with Rodin as his secretary (1902-1903) changed his writing style. Rodin recommended Rilke to visit the Paris Zoo to cure his writer's block. "What should I do there?" the young 27 year-old poet asked the 62 year-old master. "Just look" Rodin tells Rilke, "until you capture the essence of the animal." This kind of "in-seeing" is precisely what Basho recommended to his students in Kawazu Awase (1686) to "become one with the bamboo" if you wish to write about it.
Rilke referred to einsehen, "in-seeing", in a literal sense. The poem he wrote about this sculpture was a Dinggedicht, "thing-poem". I'm not gonna post the quotes from Elodin's class because it'll bloat this post too quickly, but that's what I'd like you to keep in mind if you read the rest of this. Think of Fela or Denna listening to the stories of stones, capturing the essence, their thing-ness.
That's what Rilke did when he wrote "Archaic Torso of Apollo"
>"Archaic Torso of Apollo" is a sonnet with the rhyme scheme AbbA CddC EEf GfG. It is an ekphrasis—a rhetorical genre from ancient Greece that describes inanimate objects—of an archaic Greek sculpture of Apollo, of which only the torso and crotch area survive. The poem argues that although the head is missing, the characteristics of the remaining body give an impression of what the complete statue must have been like. The impression creates a sense of being observed and a need to change one's own life.
Now the reason this story came up for me was because I've been learning about Carl Jung, and Jung wrote about something he called "The Canalization of Libido". For Jung, libido isn't just sexual energy, it encompasses all desires. Sex, hunger, sleep, anything you feel a 'pull' towards, that's libido. Jung referred to it as "psychic energy necessary for transformation", which is the same thing Rilke says to close out his sonnet about the torso of Apollo. "You must change your life", and the pull that brought Rilke to write that wasn't just the looking at the thing to capture its "thing-ness". Rilke wrote it because the torso was incomplete, akephalos.
Jung's work attempts to explain why the missing head, the void, is necessary for the transformation along with the 'charge' from the libido. Analyzing a symbol too much removes its charge and results in your desire no longer being organized or pointed in a certain direction.
> “The symbol is alive only so long as it is pregnant with meaning.” He continues that once its meaning has been “born out of it,” meaning someone finds a formulation that expresses the thing better than the symbol did, the symbol is dead and has only historical significance. The explanation doesn’t add to the symbol, it replaces it.
Which brings us to the relevant KKC scene. This mechanism (if you want to call it that) is in the books, the scene where they explain sympathy magic to Denna. But Denna is the one who makes the reference about 'desire as energy', after Deoch's bisexuality comes up in conversation.
>Wilem shrugged. “I hadn’t any knowledge of it. But small wonder he is a
Basha. He is attractive enough.” Wil hesitated, frowned. “Basha. What is a
word for that here? A man who is intimate with both women and men?”
>“Lucky?” Denna suggested. “Tired? Ambidextrous?”
>“Ambisextrous,” I corrected.
>“That won’t do,” Denna chided me. “If we don’t have impressive sounding
names for things, no one will take us seriously.”
>Sim blinked at her, obviously unable to come to grips
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“I was wondering about the Amyr, actually.” My eyes remained on the scene unfolding at Puppet’s feet. Another marionette had joined the show, a young girl in a peasant dress.
I've been feeling nostalgic lately so I figured I'd share the latest neat thing I stumbled across while I was reading about linden trees. I did use the spoiler tag on my post so don't say I didn't warn you.
Alright so, Linden tree is Tilia
>The Latin tilia is cognate to Greek πτελέᾱ, ptelea, "elm tree"
The wood is pretty useful, this is our segue
>Linden trees produce soft and easily worked timber... The wood is used in marionette- and puppet-making and -carving.
>Ease of working and good acoustic properties also make limewood popular for electric and bass guitar bodies and for wind instruments such as recorders.
This soft wood used for puppets and wind pipes leads us to... Bast.
>The term "bast" derives from Old English bæst ("inner bark of trees from which ropes were made")
>Bast fibre (also called phloem fibre or skin fibre) is plant fibre collected from the phloem (the "inner bark", sometimes called "skin") or bast surrounding the stem of certain dicotyledonous plants. Some of the economically important bast fibres are obtained from herbs cultivated in agriculture, for instance flax, hemp, or ramie, but bast fibres from wild plants, such as stinging nettle, and trees such as lime or linden, willow, oak, wisteria, and mulberry have also been used.
That leads us to string puppets
>A marionette is a much more complicated type of puppet that is suspended and controlled by a number of strings connected to the head, back and limbs, plus sometimes a central rod attached to a control bar held from above by the puppeteer.
So obviously now I'm going to point at Puppet and his marionette show in the archives. Before you read the next scene quotes, there's one thing to keep in mind. Perial's is a virgin birth. Menda-who-was-Tehlu was the Son of Himself. And marionette literally means 'little Mary'
>In French, marionnette means 'little Mary'. During the Middle Ages, string puppets were often used in France to depict biblical events, with the Virgin Mary being a popular character, hence the name
Now look at the puppet show.
>“I was wondering about the Amyr, actually.” My eyes remained on the
scene unfolding at Puppet’s feet. Another marionette had joined the show, a
young girl in a peasant dress. She approached the Tehlin and held out a hand
as if trying to give him something. No, she was asking him a question. The
Tehlin turned his back on her. She laid a timid hand on his arm. He took a
haughty step away.
>The Tehlin suddenly turned on the girl. Trembling with rage, it menaced her
with the book. She took a startled step backward and stumbled to her knees.
“The church disbanded them of course. Only an edict from the pontifex had
the ability to affect them.” The Tehlin struck the girl with the book. Once,
twice, driving her to the ground, where she lay terribly still. “Nalto couldn’t
have told them to cross to the other side of the street.”
>The Tehlin brought its hands together and turned away from the crumpled
woman. It took a stately step or two away and bowed its head as if praying.
Look. The little Tehlin puppet dances after little Mary lay terribly still.
>I managed to pull my attention away from the tableau and look up at our
host. “Puppet?” I asked, “Have you read the Lights of History by Feltemi
Reis?”
>I saw Simmon give Wilem an anxious look, but Puppet didn’t seem to find
anything odd about the question. The Tehlin at his feet stood and started to
dance and caper about. “Yes.”
>Puppet shrugged, watching the Tehlin dance at his feet.
So now for the last little etymological piece of our puppet puzzle.
>Amir (Arabic: أمير) is a masculine given name of Arabic origin, derived from the root ʾ-m-r meaning "to command," and signifying "prince," "commander," or "ruler." Originally a title for military leaders or tribal chiefs in pre-Islamic Arabia
>In Arabic, amīr (أَمِير) denotes a "commander," "prince," or "ruler,"
Starting a dnd campaign
Basically the title, I’m going to be starting a campaign loosely based on the series and I’m just looking for any general advice or ideas anyone may have. I can’t make it exactly one to one as my players are pretty set on some character ideas (infinitely reborn wizard and a bird person). Sorry if this is a little outside of the norm for the sub.
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Do we know who Kvothe kills first?
Hi guys. So I know Kvothe burns pike and is more than likely trying to kill him. But who was his first actual kill? Was it one of the bandits in the Eld? Or someone in Tarbean? He seems very ready to kill Pike, no hesitation.
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Has anyone read any of the FanFic Doors of Stone?
Interested in people’s thoughts about fanfic Doors of Stone attempts.
Are any of them worth the time? If no, what would it take to be worth it? Would you EVER read one?
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Solving denna's letter in Portuguese
Hello everyone. After seeing that the letter was solved in japanese, I have also solved it in Portuguese (brazilian).
The rule is weak like in japanese (where it is based on extra spaces). In portuguese it seems to be based on the weird capitalization, and you just select the words based on the number of capitalized letters. In green the selected words, while in yellow the weird capitalization.
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so the final answer is "melhor embora mas como nunca também teve por aqui você agora", which is a strange (and a bit broken) way of saying that it is good out there, but would be good to have you here. This matches the japanese one roughly too.
Hope it helps the breaking of this in other languages.
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On the denna hate
It seems much of the fandom sees her as a massive pain the a**. Some even blame rothfuss for writing a horrible love interest. The first time I read it, I didn't much like or dislike the character or spend much time thinking about her. After reading some comments on her, I recently reread the books and now I sort of like her, if only because I went in to examine what was wrong with her and didn't find much.
It seems like she is either nice to Kvothe or helps him or others out when she can (she sells her jewellery to buy him a lute case, helps that girl in Severen, gave her earrings to that pretty boy who took a loan from Devi).
She tries to meet him repeatedly, is understanding even when Kvothe stands her up/abandons her. After Kvothe insults her song, they have a fight (understandable that she would be upset, Kvothe himself says playing a song to someone for the first time is like appearing in front of them naked for the first time, and he reacts by tearing it to shreds). She doesn't bring it up afterwards.
The second fight they had was about her asking Kvothe if she is was one of many for him. It looked like she was giving him an opening to explain she is not, but instead of explaining he makes a joke about how sleeping with one in ten women in Imre would be too ambitious even for him.
Other than not jumping into bed with Kvothe immediately like everyone else in the story, what is she doing wrong?
About her being an escort, in each book, Rothfuss has character/denna explain the only path open to her was some form of sexual assault or other, and she chose the path of least frequent assault. It looks like her efforts to play music is so she can do something else.
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Was Abenthy Sent to Monitor Arliden’s Research? The Archives Connection
Arliden was not just some travelling musician. He was a respected composer and the leader of an important troupe sponsored by Baron Greyfallow. His work was well known enough that Lorren, the Master of the Archives, was familiar with his songs and wanted Kvothe's help identifying and cataloguing some of them. Rothfuss himself confirmed this in a Q&A with Jo Walton.
So Arliden's music already had academic value and was being preserved and studied at the University. It seems reasonable to consider that other groups might also have been interested in his work, especially once he began researching Lanre, the Chandrian, and their history.
This makes Abenthy's appearance worth looking at more closely.
Abenthy was a fully trained arcanist with considerable experience. Yet we meet him travelling alone, at an older age, in rather poor conditions and far from any major centre of civilisation. Given his education and abilities, he could probably have found much more comfortable work at a nobleman's court or somewhere else. The story never gives us a particularly clear reason for why he was in that area.
My main hypothesis is that he wasn't simply travelling aimlessly and happened to run into the troupe. He may have been looking for Arliden's company.
Abenthy had already heard of the troupe before meeting them. We don't know whether he knew about their connection to Greyfallow, since Kvothe is the one who explains that part, but he was familiar with their reputation.
If he was deliberately looking for them, joining the troupe would have given him direct access to Arliden and his research. Arliden had spent more than a year and a half collecting stories about Lanre and the Chandrian. He was trying to understand the reasons behind their actions, investigating old stories and true names, and turning his findings into a song.
Abenthy would have been in a very good position to find out how far Arliden had got and whether he had discovered something that certain groups wanted to keep hidden.
His departure is another detail that makes me suspicious. He leaves the troupe shortly before the massacre, and the reason given for his departure is almost too convenient. He meets a widow in Hallowfell, falls in love, and decides to stay and help with her brewery while teaching her son.
Of course, this could all be genuine. But if Abenthy had been sent to investigate Arliden, this would also have been a very convenient way to leave the troupe without raising questions. He could have completed his assessment, passed on what he had learned, and left before anyone acted against the company.
I'm not suggesting that he necessarily carried out the massacre himself. His involvement could have been indirect: gathering information, reporting what Arliden had discovered, or contributing to a decision made by someone else.
This is where a possible connection to the Amyr becomes interesting. Their idea of doing what is necessary for the greater good could explain why someone might take part in something terrible while genuinely believing it was justified.
It would also explain the apparent contradiction between Abenthy's affection for Kvothe and the possibility that he was involved in something that destroyed his family. I don't think his affection needs to have been fake. He could have genuinely cared about Kvothe and the troupe while still putting his mission or organisation above those feelings.
His farewell message to Kvothe is worth considering in this context:
"Remember your father's song. Be wary of folly."
It could simply be a caring teacher's advice. But if Abenthy understood the danger surrounding Arliden's research, it might also have been a warning from someone who knew where that path could lead.
So my theory is that Abenthy may have been sent to locate and investigate Arliden, whose music and historical research were already attracting interest. He gained access to the family, learned what Arliden had discovered, and then left under a convenient explanation
Can't find Audiobooks in good quality
Hello dear friends, I stand before a problem that one of you may be able to solve:
I really like Rupert Degas' narration of the audiobooks (we can discuss that choice in the comments, this inquiry has no room for my reasons). This is not a problem you might say, but alas I am also very fond of good quality audio, by trade as you might say - I am a sound tech. Now the audio quality of these books on audible is just horrid, they are without a doubt the worst quality audio I have in my collection of currently 145 books and that is counting quite a few cassette rips.
Now my real question is: Does anyone in this community have the CD or any other form of medium that isn't audible and could tell me whether the quality on that is better than the audible version? I have been looking for a long time but buying UK versions of US audiobooks in Germany really is not a simple thing if audible can't deliver.
Anyway I have been looking for about a year now, on and off because it's a frustrating matter and I really hope one of you has an Idea on how to obtain what I am looking for.
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Yes or no?!
Put very simply. Are we going to get The Doors Of Stone in the conventional way. In other words, Pat formally releasing it.
Upvote for yes, downvote for no.
Please resist the urge to just tank the vote in the no direction because you're frustrated!
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Mildy interesting thought about Abenthy - Small Spoilers
I was just re-reading (or really re-listening) to the books for the umpteenth time, and I had a realisation that I hadn't considered before. I don't think this has been posted before, but forgive me if this has (I couldn't see it covered before with a search through the subreddit).
My thought is this
Towards the end of the Wise Man's Fear, Kvothe's fame is getting a little out of hand. He often finds himself listening in on conversations in Taverns and the stories about him are aplenty, even in Tarbean. His stories have travelled all the way from Vintas to the Imre. It's fair to say most of the civilised world has now heard of the name Kvothe, at least in passing.
This means, Abenthy has most likely heard of Kvothe's rising fame towards the end of Book 2. We know he's still alive, because at one point Kvothe mentions, it would be a very long time before I saw him again. We haven't seen this encounter occur in the books yet, implying that Abenthy is still out there.
This is interesting to me because he's the only other person who's alive from Kvothe's past from before everyone he knew and loved were killed by the Chandrian.
I wonder what Abenthy thinks of Kvothe's rising fame. He speculated about and recognised Kvothe's talent from a very early age, and predicted he'd leave a mark on the world no matter what he chose to do.
Would does Abenthy think about the fact that:
Kvothe is now in the University
Kvothe is a trained member of the arcanum, with his power rising.
Kvothe encountered the fae (from his stories of Felurian)
Kvothe is using his talents to save those in need
And here's some more speculation.
Abenthy most likely has noticed that Kvothe's troupe haven't made it back to visit him for many years at this point. While not completely unexpected, he might have thought it slightly amiss, specially since he knew about Arliden's song about the Chandrian.
Abenthy had the foresight, knowing the name of the wind (if not others), that it's not good to speak true names of the Fae when discussing this with Arliden about his song. He mentions at one point, this is past just simple superstition, he alludes to the fact that it's because he's a learned man that he avoids it.
This implies that Abenthy is somewhat open to the idea of the Fae, and willing to consider them an actual threat. He goes as far as to avoid speaking their true names, and it's not impossible that he knows there's an actual kernel of truth to the Chandrian.
So is it possible that, Abenthy has put 2 and 2 together, and is aware that something is wrong about Kvothe's family not visiting, or him not hearing anything from Kvothe?
It is possible that Abenthy seeks out Kvothe for whatever reason at the University, and the reason they meet again in the future is this?
I don't really understand how Kvothe and Abenthy would naturally meet again, just through their normal lives. I speculate at least one of them seeks out the other, and it seems to me that it's quite possible it's Abenthy seeking out Kvothe.
Further speculation.
We know for a fact that Kvothe will meet Abenthy in the future, and it's entirely possible this is one of the story points in book 3. What will Kvothe speak about to Abenthy? I think this will honestly be one of Kvothe's best opportunities to actually talk about the catastrophic experience of his troupe dying.
Abenthy would sympathise, and it seems to me, that he's already in a position to believe Kvothe's story. Abenthy wouldn't think that Kvothe's story of the Chandrian was made up, or silly. I believe this might actually be the first time Kvothe reveals the happenings of the Chandrian killing his family to anyone in the books.
Perhaps Abenthy and Kvothe discuss Cinder (Ferule), and Abenthy actually has something insightful about the Chandrian which helps Kvothe.
This is of course all speculation, and I'd love to hear what you all have to say about this topic.
with the situation.
>“You see,” Denna said slowly, as if explaining to a child. “It’s all just
energy. And we can direct it in different ways.” She blossomed into a brilliant
smile, as if realizing the perfect way to explain the situation to him. “It’s like
when you do this.” She began to vigorously rub her hands up and down her
thighs, mimicking his earlier motion. “It’s all just energy.”
Vorfelan Rhinata Morie. Desire is energy, and we can direct it in different ways. The desire for knowledge shapes a man. You must change your life.
>“That’s something,” I admitted, relaxing a bit. I pointed to the words above
the door. “Do you know what that means?”
>Wil glanced up. “The desire for knowledge shapes a man,” he said. “Or
something close to that.”
As I said at the start, this is an appreciation post. Leaving the series unfinished may be the nicest gift anyone could be given. I'm not claiming Patrick did this on purpose or that this is some 4d chess game. But leaving Doors of Stone unfinished, by leaving that gap there, it creates the situation required for using your libido to transform yourself. How badly do you need to know how the story ends? Where do you direct the great weight of your desire?
You’d be amazed at the things you hear if only you take time to listen to the stories of stones. To feel cool water rising along your back like a star from the sea, everything looking clear and sharp, as if for the first time in your life you are fully awake.
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So... i finished The Wise Man's Fear
I really enjoyed The Name of the Wind. I thought it was a fun and interesting story, so I was really looking forward to reading The Wise Man's Fear.
Unfortunately, I ended up not liking it that much. I gave it 3 stars because, at least for me, the beginning and the ending managed to save the book. But the whole Maer storyline, Ademre, and especially Felurian nearly bored me to death.
I understand that Rothfuss wanted Kvothe to become some sort of sex god, and that's fine. Make him the sex god, I guess. But why did we need so many chapters dedicated to it?
What frustrates me the most is that when it came to all the really interesting things Kvothe supposedly did during his journey, we got barely a paragraph. Yet somehow we had endless chapters about Felurian.
I can say that I really enjoyed Cthaeh and the mercenaries in the forest, and whenever the main plot was brought up (which, honestly, only happened about five times).
P.S. I used to think I disliked Denna, but I realized that what I actually dislike is the way Kvothe talks about her and romanticizes everything she does (or doesn't do). I don't think I know her well enough to love or hate her as a character. I think I'm just tired of seeing her through Kvothe's idealized perspective.
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serving as the active participle of the verb amara (أَمَرَ), which means "to command" or "to order."
The Arabic is one side of the coin. We want both sides.
>In Hebrew usage, Amir (אמיר or עמיר) carries distinct meanings like "treetop," "crown," or "sheaf of grain,"
You see it? An Amir is a prince, ruler, commander, chief... leader
>Realization thundered into me. The leader of the bandits. The graceful man
in chain mail.
So two Amir would each be Lords among their people
>Lanre asked Selitos to walk with him outside the city. Selitos agreed,
hoping to learn the truth of Lanre’s trouble and offer him what comfort a
friend can give. They often kept each other’s council, for they were both
lords among their people.
But Amir also means treetop and crown.
>“I daresay you are. I am no tree. No more than is a man a chair. I am the
Cthaeh. You are fortunate to find me. Many would envy you your chance.”
>“Chance?” I echoed, trying to catch a glimpse of whatever was speaking to
me from among the branches of the tree.
And as we all know, there were no human Amyr. It's a pretty broad weave. Mendicant judges, traveling justices, graceful dancers... because nothing is more graceful than a marionette. They move weightlessly, fluid, flowing...
>I slowly unrolled the piece of paper and instantly recognized the man she
had painted. His eyes were pure black. In the background there was a bare
tree, and he was standing on a circle of blue with a few wavy lines on it.
>“That’s supposed to be water,” she said, pointing. “It’s hard to paint water
though. And he’s supposed to be standing on it. There were drifts of snow
around him too, and his hair was white.
That's the difference between a puppet and a string puppet. Marionettes are suspended and controlled by a number of strings... plus sometimes a central rod held from above by the puppeteer.
No, there were no human Amyr. There were only little...
>“You are a tool in my hand,” the shadowed man interrupted gently.
“Nothing more.”
wooden...
>The soft voice went as hard as a rod of Ramston steel. “Ferula.”
>Cinder’s quicksilver grace disappeared. He staggered, his body
suddenly rigid with pain.
>“You are a tool in my hand,” the cool voice repeated. “Say it.”
puppets.
>“I am a tool in your hand, Lord Haliax,” Cinder amended as he
crumpled, trembling, to his knees.
>“Your purpose, Lord Haliax.” The words were choked out. “Yours.
None other.” The tension left the air and Cinder’s body suddenly went
slack. He fell forward onto his hands and beads of sweat fell from his face
to patter on the ground like rain. His white hair hung limp around his face.
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Flame, thunder, broken tree
Good evening, fellow Arcanists! I’ve been following some excellent discussions on this sub for a while now, and today a few questions came up—what better place to discuss and debate them than this community of brilliant minds? I’ve just finished reading Chapter 91 of *The Wise Man’s Fear*, where Kvothe confronts the bandits at their camp in the Eld. I need some help understanding what happened with the lightning, the connection between the arrows (the one Marten fires into the oak tree and the one Kvothe drives into the ground), and that brief mention of an attempt at "grounding." I’m a physician, so the theoretical side of electricity is a bit outside my wheelhouse. Could someone explain this to me? Also, regarding the phrase "As above, so below"—which I recognize as a core principle of Hermeticism—how does that fit into all of this? Does anyone have any thoughts? Thanks in advance!
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The last chapter
I have a lot of questions about the very last chapter we have.
I've read the books a few times, and I think I can say I catch a good amount of references and connections. I finished WMF a minute ago and the last chapter left me confused. (Last chapter meaning: the last chapter excluding the three part silence) I understand the basics, and the things said out loud, but the connections escape me. Can you guys point out the less obvious ones in it? I know it's a big ask, knowing Rothfuss, but I really love these and it's an unexplored part of the book for me.
I'm also interested in the fact that it's implied that Kvothe still practices the Ketan even in his Kote "state". What could this mean? Does this strengthen the "Trap theory"?
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The poetkiller
People may have already made this connection, but a boy named Aaron comes into waystone inn and calls Kvothe's sword Keysera the poet killer.
Then Vashet calls the man she worked for her poet-king.
And I imagine Caesura is what killed the king that made him kingkiller. So this king was Vashet's former employer?
Also do we ever find out what Bredon's position in a in Vintas? Is he the poet king? Because he goes on a whole speech about how a nobleman somewhere can be a different type of nobleman elsewhere. So he could be the poet-king, and if he is Cinder/Ash, Kvothe has every reason to kill him.
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Anyone else struggling to find something that pulls them in like The Kingkiller Chronicle?
I absolutely loved The Name of the Wind and The Wise Man’s Fear. There’s just something about these books that I haven’t been able to find anywhere else lately…
I think it’s a combination of Kvothe as a character, the storytelling, the world, and how completely immersed I felt while reading them. I genuinely didn’t want to put them down, and I haven’t found many books that give me that same feeling.
I’ve tried quite a few fantasy series since and I really enjoyed The Will of the Many, although the second book didn’t grab me quite as much (kinda hated it to be honest lol). I liked the first couple of Stormlight Archive books, but eventually found them a little too complex and stopped halfway through Oathbringer. I’m currently on the second Red Rising book, and while it’s good, I’m just not nearly as hooked.
I think what I’m really looking for is another story with a compelling main character, great character development, an immersive world, and writing that makes you genuinely excited to pick the book back up. I enjoy some romance too, but it doesn’t need to be the focus.
Has anyone else had this problem after reading Kingkiller? And more importantly, have you found anything that finally scratched that itch?
I’m starting to think Rothfuss ruined fantasy for me. 😂
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Missing the Maer’s Wedding
We often look at Kvothe going to the Stormwahl as the Cthaeh’s way of turning Kvothe into a dangerous tool where he learns to fight and develops spinning leaf which is a means to find the name of the wind. Which it was.
But we don’t look at what he missed out on enough. Returning after they defeat the bandits, Kvothe would likely have been officially recognized by the court, received his rewards/titles, and most importantly, been present for the Maer’s wedding. At which point, Kvothe would recognize or at least would have a good chance to speak with his mother’s relatives that he had visited as a child wherein they would recognize Kvothe’s unusual name and red hair. Kvothe would be recognized as the son Of Netalia Lackless generally if not officially.
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The Eolian
I’m getting back into sketching and was wondering if anyone can share links or images to what they think the Eolian looks like externally and internally? I want to sketch a series of scenes (like a comic strip but ye olde sketching style) of Kvothe going there and playing for the first time but my own vision of it in my head keeps changing, so I’m curious how others imagine it.
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Who would you choose to write the Doors of Stone?
The third book is finally being written, but it’s not by Patrick Rothfuss.
Who would you pick to take the mantle of this massive task?
We will assume they are granted access to all of Patrick Rothfuss’s notes and insights into what he is/was envisioning for this final installment.
My choice?
Daniel Abraham (one half of James SA Corey of The Expanse). Great writer and wonderful world builder (for me, The Dagger and the Coin series is on par with TKKC) and he has proven he was able to honor worlds built by others when writing a (good) Star Wars novel or a Game of Thrones graphic novel.
So who’s your pick?
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before the massacre. He may have passed that information to an organisation interested in controlling or suppressing the knowledge.
The Amyr are one possible explanation for who he was working with, but this is still speculation.
The main question is whether Abenthy was sent to discover what Arliden knew, or whether he already knew what he was looking for before he ever joined the troupe.
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Could Kvothe Fly to the Moon? How?
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My theory on book 3
I figure I'd just give my take on the topic as well. As we all (sadly) know at this point it is very unlikely that 15 years into the wait we get the surprise of a book 3 being released.
Statistically I would guess someone in this forum has already guessed how it ends, but still we would all like an official version.
What I think will happen is one or two things:
1. The first and best outcome is that Pat has parked aside writing, probably enjoying life and caring for his children. When they grow up they will eventually read their dad's books, and if they like them will rush him to finish the story. If all goes well we might either get it from him or perhaps one day from his kids much like Tolkien or other famous writers. Still bittersweet as at that point many of us might not be there to enjoy it and/or it would be a draft version of what it could have been.
2. The second but sadly plausible option is that Pat has succumbed to his struggle with mental disease, has also lost contact with his kids, or has been removed from their life, and is in a downward spiral that ends in isolation, addiction or worse.
At this point I think it's a coin toss, but I'm rooting for option 1 because as a parent I would like to leave a completed legacy to my children, even if I wasn't around, I would like them to be my audience down the road, take a little piece of what I built, and for that it should be something that is complete. Fingers crossed.
Would love to hear other points of view.
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Is there any fanfic?
With so many theories over the years has anyone attempted a closure to the story? Or is there any other fanfics that are worth reading?
I have read only the two main novels. And haven't read the novellas yet
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