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Would be interesting to know how many people bought on hyperliquid too given the geographic constraints. And see how this distribution changes once token is live
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85%+ into 843 addresses out of 13k+ that participated, how is this quite good?
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No trading talk in here, just sent the picture as a statistic of participants
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Dude I am retail investor. I want to ask you, with all these hooks' technology they route transactions through v.4 and Unichain? Because the rewards in v.3 dropped very much. What are they doing?
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The ROI is terrible - sponsors are aware of this but there are few viable solutions. We estimated with a recent partners’ hackathon that it was basically a 25k / developer acquisition cost and even then the devs weren’t really “locked in”
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We’re having this convo about the efficacy of accelerators, and yet, alliance dao seeded Pump which just raised at $4bn val and launched token today. So not every project will make it, but some do and they benefit from good early help.
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Finished my Uniswap Incubator by Atrium and Incubase few weeks ago and joining Uniswap Accelerator this month.
The market currently lacks trust and we have limited connections. It was tough raising funds during DevCon but after get into Base and Uniswap Incubator, it becomes easier for us to knock on VCs' doors and attract users - at least with the credibility that comes from being a Uni/Base incubatee.
From our experience talking to local VCs, many of them also struggle to identify who’s genuine and who’s not. With so many teams trying to raise, often with little transparency, it’s hard for them to filter out scammers or recognize real builders. Being part of a reputable incubator or accelerator helps bridge that trust gap. It acts as a form of validation and makes the conversation more straightforward.
Besides, I've participated in a series of hackathons and realized that many organizers run them mainly for branding or marketing purposes, with little concern for what happens afterward. You build, you win, you take the prize, that’s it. Even if you reach out post-hackathon, you get ghosted.
Not Web3, but in Web2 world the thing that worked the best in attracting a quality startup talent was referrals from trusted people.
Like talk to these guys, they are building something cool, see how you can support.
Not rejecting hackathons or accelerators though.
For me anyway (but I worked on web3 infra, not chains, though Visa stuff a bit similar) like any product it comes down to value proposition of the chain. Then everything else - hackathons, incubators, huge parties, meetups etc. I may be wrong though
Not so many, less than 0 and sometime 1
But you know exactly if the team wants to continue, if the product works, if there is demand…. Where you can loose month with incubations
Hackathons are nice in the way you attract real builders, not companies looking for funding / nice BDs ect. You attract the tech and the people building it. Also creates a special connection between the winning team and the sponsor
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But do you really make theses at crypto accelerators ?
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Incubators such at YC can be great but a few problems are. They take up too much token and equity and will be the first ones to dump against community and founders. A lot of basecamps actually don’t provide much value. Plus a lot of VC’s don’t like to invest in future rounds as they don’t like the way the cap table is.
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From personal experience,it is better to avoid chasing accelerators. (if you can)
Any business model that force you to compete your project against another isn't worth it. They are going to chase narratives and they chase billions.
But for us, getting to 1000s first is a validation and we have a fairly good idea to reach to millions and then to billions. As you have spent too much time with the problem statement and you see a good amount of possibilities and ways to take the product forward and eventually you will figure out more possibilities.
As per me, We only need their money & the rest we can handle. They might tell you a thing or two but eventually you would have figured it out yourselves only.
Make something people want should be the only PMF lesson
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Basecamps are much nicer than hackathons as they also guide on GTM and product market fit
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plus the same amount as the 85% to 50-100 private investors
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IMO what we’re missing in web3 is what redbull do - direct campus outreach. It was wildly successful for them.
The difficulty is that redbull’s reps have an easy job: give redbull to anyone doing sport / good looking. There is no good solution for this problem as of yet other than setting up fresher’s stalls or giving grants to departments - neither of which work that well
Sers, pls dont drop rocks, srs buisness is going on, but where is easy drop farm deposit and forget on solana currently? I need to facilitate those riches from gaymetrics, all 20$ i earned in a half a year
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This is a great discussion, but we feel it often misses the most important layer: the context of the team and the project itself.
Funds are a tool to develop the project, they’re not the goal. What’s true for one team is rarely true for another. What’s necessary for one project might be totally irrelevant for a different one (AI LLM is not like a Dex app) .
The one thing that’s always true: if you decide to take money, take it from the best possible people you can. Strong partners are always more valuable than criteria like valuation or terms on paper.
Another point: the tools and the "best" options are constantly changing. Right now, for example, we hear only good things about Echo, it's trendy and seems to work well for teams today. The "best" isn’t static; it evolves with the market and community.
In the end, it’s about staying flexible and focused on your own core mission, not getting too distracted by what worked for someone else. For us rn we are trying to accomplish as far as we can without raising funds, but we can effort it and not every team can.
You also need to target a niche first and grow from there. Targetting a small group of people is always better for convertibility than casting a widenet.
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hackathons are great for quick wins and drawing in talent, but for long-term growth, you really need something like a basecamp or accelerator... the best ecos invest in both
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Yes, but how many continue after winning and have decent gtm, etc? Expecting not too many.
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Would be curious about hackathon roi also. No sarcasm, just really don’t know. At devcon eth global I tried to participate and also talked to builders and some sponsors (not chains though). Builders wanted 1) money and exposure 2) entry to Web3 so network 3) learn or build smth cool outside web3 job.
A couple of sponsors building out ecosystem (but again infra with good brands, not chains) told me hackathon is marketing for them, and they are not expecting star use cases as much.
If you can’t raise any money go base camp. New model
Is like Jeff at Hyperliquid. Use your own money and build at least MVP and then raise money at a decent valuation pre launch if needed
You probably don't understand how much more easier is to have the right connections and how much more changes at survival you have with that
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They seem a bit harder to organise, and if your team needs guidance on GTM/PMF in this space ngmi
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