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I'd still like to seperate investment products on the open investment internet that is Ethereum and other L1s from smart contract native dapps

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But since decentralization is a spectrum, unless we define a specific limit to what is DeFi or not, we will always have blurred lines

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its not an external dependency

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im sure there are many offchain hedgefunds

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yet it has done better than any decentralized delta-neutral attempts

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not sure u understand how ajna is built

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no i would not compare it to real defi, very different with meaningful centralized components

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elaborate plz. is Ethena not DeFi?

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but I also dont want to equate aave and GMX with stuff like Ethena

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LobsterDAO 🦞

but yes love defi ❤️ just trolling a bit

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LobsterDAO 🦞

if you call that anything else than pure contempt, I don't know what to say

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LobsterDAO 🦞

an empty, barely maintained corner they approved 2 weeks before event

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and like by not supporting it either financially or even talking about it in an even handed way it leans the ecosystem towards more degen and speculative use cases by default bc theres no grants, and its looked down on as a "good" use of ethereum.

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this is eth leaderships reason for not supporting defi and i think its kinda bs. i dont know if they need to fund defi that much, but there are non-ponzi defi projects that could benefit from early support.

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judging by collaterals we all have today, i'd disagree 🙂

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yeah maybe it's too late

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Credit Guild also had an interesting mechanism

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yes the pricing source is you, its a static input

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nobody is debating that

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*built-in pricing source, not an oracle, lets get terminology straight =)

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LobsterDAO 🦞

its an investment product

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cos it has built-in amm and thus an oracle

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any collateralized lending protocol needs an oracle, otherwise how will you value user positions?

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I struggle with saying oracle-reliant protocols are defi

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we all have TRM labs, centralized collaterals, and multisig protocols

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Very well arculated!

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this is "Defi" representation at Devcon the EF event

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LobsterDAO 🦞

something like pooltogether has benefits for humanity but it may not be super sustabinable in the beginning

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i see u choose fight in the morning

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I do defi not onchain finance

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