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Trying to figure out how I can add Solana FUD to that message but I’ll just say “network failures” and “solchicks” and leave it there

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Innovation happens on ETH - others just fork to chase monetary gains - exception of pump.fun - nothing wrong with that.

And I believe that

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Ethereum is pretty competitive, so unless liquidations volume would be very very high, it is kind of normal to not have hundreds of liquidators at any point of time.
From the data there (not sure how exactly precise or coverage), 75 liquidations last 7 days with 13 different liquidators is actually quite big count

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This is also a pretty good dashboard https://eigenphi.io/mev/ethereum/liquidation

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Curious if anyone made a public resource to monitor it like on web..

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https://aave.com/docs/developers/liquidations

I’m trying to figure out the best way to measure competition and price of participation in this. Any ideas on how to approach it?

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they've got three networks

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but saying it's a bit more resistant than account based protocols is fair, and the reason for that Emin cites is sound, though I don't think it will matter in practice

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some biggest wallets and major custodians are still reusing addresses. but if they can crack private keys there's way more to worry about other than bitcoin

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Dear Lobster community, can you please recommend Solana wallet that supports msig and also works with ledger hardware wallet?

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yes but they need public key to do this

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huh? in bitcoin it's true. for most UTXOs only pubkey hash is known (and sometimes not even that) before UTXO is used

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Hey! Do people remember workDao? Trying to find out it something like this exists nowadays, coz it seems like workdao itself isn't operating anymore. Anybody knows what happened to it?

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Willl have to give him the benefit of the doubt he’s phrasing wrong , but the above seems asinine

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quantum computing is literally a scam and a story of 10 years promising the next trillion dollar worth impact + china is investing more than us

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Hard to ignore the Bitcoin Neanderthals when BTC/USDT drives the entire ecosystem. Love it or hate it we’re all invested in bitcoin

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We still entertaining trolls 🧐

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looks like not too much actors are participating.. and the amount is tiny, comparing to the total amount of liquidations globally.. But it’s aave only, makes sense

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https://dune.com/KARTOD/AAVE-Liquidations (only Ethereum)
https://aave.blockanalitica.com/v2/ethereum/liquidations/ (only Ethereum)
https://defillama.com/liquidations/aave (only v2 and I'm guessing only Ethereum)

Not sure all the above sources contain all the data... so take them with a grain of salt

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Get event logs for the liquidate call decoded, or debug traces -> decode the trace calls+ extract the fields you want to use for your analysis.

Dune should have the events at bare minimum, maybe the debug calls decoded as well 🙏

Hope this helps

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two of them are purely network level and utxo based, and the one user-faced is a usual EVM

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But isn’t Avalanche account based ?

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yeah saying bitcoin is quantum secure is disingenious imo

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there are some dormant p2pk utxos but I don't know how much BTC is locked in them

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and public/private key in bitcoin is usually one use, revealed with the tx, so it might be too late if the tx has already been confirmed

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But this isn’t the only quantum risk to cryptocurrencies , it’s just a part of it. If they can solve shor’s algorithm quick enough, then they can decrypt private keys no?

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i mean uniswap is kinda vitalik’s idea if im not mistaken

so there’s that at least

(idk tho how true ef=v)

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Lurking on this conversation and just wanna say: huge respect for you taking this position publicly and generally being very transparent about the way you operate. Lots of orgs can afford to learn from this.

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“Public keys are only revealed when transactions are issued”

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Is it just me or is he just wrong ? /channel/shoalresearch/7156

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