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Yep, they not execute

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LLM helpers could be beneficial for the calculation of optimal LPs, ticks, etc

But that would be informational only, not execution style.

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LobsterDAO 🦞

every agent can be jailbroken, its a feature of their ability to hyperstition and imagine results, so no, all modern LLMs can be tricked

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LobsterDAO 🦞

then we had the buttons you can click

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but those people normally don't have 7+ figures in their TG bot

losing 3 figs seems acceptable, but I still don't see the point in all those "llm wrappers" that pose as AI for trading

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i went for the lower side to drive my point across :)

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its the modern equivalent of fully self driving cars, cool idea, will just take 10 years to finally get robotaxis

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i am not sure how many people would be actually open to AI executing trades/swaps for them

rather than suggesting "you should do this but you need to click it yourself" which i think is completely viable, but a different application

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LobsterDAO 🦞

the whole point of financial apps is that YOU are the one clicking buttons at the end of the day and assuming risk

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You don’t need to provide keys to agent, just use smart wallet with open source modules and make non-custodial vault inside your wallet

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This is the first version where we train the agent to recognize commands and actions, it does not solve important problems now.

But the second version will look for complex routes, let's say you want to get yield from ETH or stable staking:

1. put it in a staking pool, get LST
2. put it in a second pool, and then become LP in a third

Find out where the APY will be higher across networks, you will have to manually iterate through 100500 routes, this you can delegate to a search engine

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LobsterDAO 🦞

crypto such an adversarial environment. you wouldnt want to open access your agent either or people would just trick it for their benefit

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LobsterDAO 🦞

sell my punk at the floor.
"txn sent"
fuck not my zombie!!!

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it doesn't, but you can slap "AI" on the pitch deck.

market is moronic, same as most VCs.

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LobsterDAO 🦞

Not sure how that improves UX

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LobsterDAO 🦞

This is a search agent for various routes and UX, does not offer any keys or trading ;)

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LobsterDAO 🦞

if they can be tricked, you'll relegate them to private interactions which require your input, making the fully autonomous txn a much more complicated task than promt engineering

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LobsterDAO 🦞

and now you have to type a sentence again? lol

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it also feels like going back to broker days where you had to call someone to put a long order on AAPL at x price

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yeah pretty much i think. it's very viable for AI to do research for me and offer alternatives, but so so bearish on everything that does financial transactions for me

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yeah but if tg sniping bots have taught us anything, people in crypto doesn't really understand risk

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with all the currently available LLMs, the chance of a wrong prompt / answer is a lot higher than 0.1%

totally unacceptable for anything financial

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id rather it generate keys and i send it what im safe with loosing, as opposed to giving it full permission to rug me

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what i dont understand with agents wrt financial risk

if agent misunderstands your request (surely you've had something like that using LLMs), you are fucked. Even a 0.1% chance of all your money being sent to a burn address is unacceptable

thats why i am not sure if literal agents doing stuff for you in crypto will ever get traction

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LobsterDAO 🦞

are we really still pretending that agents are not just some prompt?

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LobsterDAO 🦞

>KAVA
Ooofff

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maybe with alot of work, but you'd want alot of trust in your agent before giving it your keys

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LobsterDAO 🦞

10 points to artificial griffindor

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Instead of 2-3 clicks you just type for a minute

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ahahah i love that reference to uniswap's ad

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