LobsterDAO 🦞

11 Apr 2025 13:20

most devs are careless (regardless the industry).
that's why it's always good practice to put some guardrails up.

devs with unaudited / full access always find a way to screw up.

LobsterDAO 🦞

11 Apr 2025 13:16

For signing, pretty much everyone uses Ledger's / airgaps though, so that covers new code deployment, which is the most important thing. We don't really have good infra yet for managing frontends on-chain the same way we do contracts, which sucks, but we'll get there over time

Also I would expect locked-down workstations to be mostly used to secure confidential information, rather than protect from code deployment being compromised (you would use multiple hardware keys for that, just like crypto does)

LobsterDAO 🦞

11 Apr 2025 13:14

Actually yes lol. But not a good example since Silvergate’s problem was that it dealt with crypto

LobsterDAO 🦞

11 Apr 2025 13:08

Were Silvergate depositors made fully whole? I remember talk about how they could only claim up to FDIC insurance (250k iirc)
That was also 2 years ago

LobsterDAO 🦞

11 Apr 2025 13:06

I think there is more of a narrative problem than an actual problem tho. I think every builder in DeFi at least would agree that while "building in DeFi sux cuz of how difficult to build and monetize is" , it also quite magical in terms of the things that you can do in a permission decentralized way

LobsterDAO 🦞

11 Apr 2025 12:54

Or the fact that people harp about L1s value accrual issue due to L2s.

LobsterDAO 🦞

10 Apr 2025 20:36

Also the SLA verification is decentralized as well where we have checker nodes that validate the network performance.

LobsterDAO 🦞

10 Apr 2025 20:22

I am asking from clusters that are live on your network now? If I wanted to train a model, what’s the best infra I can find on your network?

LobsterDAO 🦞

10 Apr 2025 20:18

What’s the highest possible cluster on your network?

LobsterDAO 🦞

10 Apr 2025 20:16

We have a mechanism that checks it regularly. There are multiple criteria's like Uptime period,

LobsterDAO 🦞

10 Apr 2025 20:14

How is the quality of service determined?

LobsterDAO 🦞

10 Apr 2025 20:11

ATH staking is required to ensure providers fullfill SLAs so incase of poor service quality a part of collateral can be slashed.

LobsterDAO 🦞

10 Apr 2025 20:07

what's the minimum requirement to join your network?

LobsterDAO 🦞

10 Apr 2025 19:58

so if I understand correctly the only crypto and blockchain related here thing here is the DAO Governance.
What is the business case for running your training through this platform rather than AWS?

LobsterDAO 🦞

10 Apr 2025 19:53

So it's a marketplace of compute cycles?

LobsterDAO 🦞

11 Apr 2025 13:17

(Most hacks are due to devs being super careless, but that's the issue of individual devs, not the industry per-se)

LobsterDAO 🦞

11 Apr 2025 13:14

What? Tradfi doesn’t lose billions because a CDN got poisoned?

LobsterDAO 🦞

11 Apr 2025 13:08

if you ever worked in tradfi securing billions / trillions in annual transaction volume, I can assure you that security is a lot better than on the majority of the crypto projects.

how many crypto projects have fully locked-down developper workstations?
none?

LobsterDAO 🦞

11 Apr 2025 13:08

It's been quite a long time since I have had a problem due to lack of tech or infrastructure to build, it's more of "how can I build that magic within those constraints" which is a challenging but very rewarding experience when you solve it (non monetary rewards)

LobsterDAO 🦞

11 Apr 2025 12:55

Cryptos problems are deeper than just decentralization tech. It's a problem on the application layer itself.

LobsterDAO 🦞

10 Apr 2025 20:52

https://www.dlnews.com/articles/defi/tornado-cash-dev-gets-potential-boost-from-doj-memo

LobsterDAO 🦞

10 Apr 2025 20:24

Will have to check that. If you are interested in training AI models on our network I can connect you with our BD team they would be able to answer everything in much more detail.

LobsterDAO 🦞

10 Apr 2025 20:21

There isn't a limit as of now

LobsterDAO 🦞

10 Apr 2025 20:17

Yes that's possible as well.

LobsterDAO 🦞

10 Apr 2025 20:15

Also do you manually get to pick which service provider you want to train your model on?

LobsterDAO 🦞

10 Apr 2025 20:11

Not entirely sure, but I know the founder has quite a lot of videos working with the network posted on X. Also they do have a Gitlab as well where you can see more. I'll share the link to you in DM.

LobsterDAO 🦞

10 Apr 2025 20:10

Just need to have a GPU that you can lend + some ATH to stake.
Stake amount would depend upon your GPU specs.

LobsterDAO 🦞

10 Apr 2025 20:02

Yeah and that compute transaction happen on-chain as payments are in ATH so there is full transperancy around the business.

Currently the biggest reason to train AI models on our platform vs AWS is the cost, we are 25-30% cheaper than AWS.

LobsterDAO 🦞

10 Apr 2025 19:54

Yes here's the dashboard
https://dashboard.aethir.com/protocol/overview

Commision is 20%.

LobsterDAO 🦞

10 Apr 2025 19:52

We don't claim decentralized training. What we claim is that the network is decentralized where anyone can join the network with their cluster of GPUs and the network is governed by a DAO. DAO to be launched later this year.