Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 18:03

I guess I need to try lumina

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 18:02

those are defined in the OS-build templates, so they "just work" without an special setup or configuration by the end user

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 18:01

the only interactions with the OS itself are done through an external process abstrations system, running base-OS utilities

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 18:00

oh ok I though it was given that was the explanation by andre from hyperbola project

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 18:00

Lumina is an interface for X11

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 17:59

as I questioned earlier... where is Lumina talking directly to the kernel?

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 17:59

but isnt that rather combersome to talk directly to the kernel in the linux case, given message layer is quite simplistic?

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 17:57

Dbus is just an abstract communications layer with an overly complicated interaction system

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 17:56

given from my understandment the linux kernel message layer is pretty barebones

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 17:55

and he explain to me that there is no need for d-bus in llumina project

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 17:54

and their interest in including lumina as a supported DE

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 17:54

where does it talk directly to the kernel again?

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 17:52

regarding the other question

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 17:51

@beanpole135 I created a room for you! If you decide to go with it name is already kept

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 17:46

you might want to look into this https://t2bot.io/telegram/ as stated before

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 18:02

Most desktop environments are actually a collection of dozens of individual processes - each of them handling 1 thing about the DE. These use DBUS to talk to each other and try to keep in sync

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 18:01

so them why would other systems use d-bus and not directly interface with the x server like lumina does?

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 18:00

but essentially it is just a graphical interface for the system

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 18:00

the X11 interactions are abstrated into a single Qt class to keep Lumina itself based just on Qt5

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 17:59

Lumina is used on PT by default as well

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 17:59

is lumina already running on project trident?

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 17:58

there is no need to use it at all when you are using the Xorg/XCB libraries to interface with X11 itself

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 17:56

so in resume @beanpole135 how does this project manage to avoid d-bus

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 17:55

and if so how you acomplish that in the linux kernel

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 17:54

in their repositories

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 17:54

I only heard a introduction from one of the main devs of hyperbola.info project in regards to their recent project HyperbolaBSD

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 17:52

as stated before this looks to be a very interesting project, the fact that it talks directly to the kernel etc

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 17:51

https://matrix.to/#/!WJYBkFfJZuVMppZJnP:matrix.org?via=matrix.org&via=envs.net

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 17:47

then people can acess this channel either from irc matrix, slack among others

Lumina Desktop

17 December 2020 17:46

and periodically we have somebody come in and ask about bridges to other chats, but running those just for 1 person are a bit overkill