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Get your monthly Aurora costs multiply by 12 and use the same money to get a proper server and you'll probably get something that outperforms the cloud in every aspect and repays itself in one year

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I agree with cloud ...I see people who are habituated to the cloud will get to know...I mean scalability , reliability, performance,Security are very good when compared to On-Premises

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Like, why did SMSS suddently become half-finished Azure Manager?? Who asked???

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SQL server is like playing video games for me

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Sql server feels like a toy database to me

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And btw, I am completely with everything running on linux is way better than windows for sure and much faster and smoother...

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how it is different, bro???

A DBA have two things in common: 1) how to configure and tune your database

2) is maintenance

I understand SQL server is different than postgreSQL, windows is different than linux, it is completely fine...

but once ur a DBA, u should learn how to manage databases that setups on different environments whether linux or windows... so learn linux, and start learn postgreSQL by reading books and listening to podcasts... thats simple...

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SQL server DBA and postgresql DBA Both are different

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Yes I am sql server DBA(onprem and azure sql). Also working in aurora postgresql. But not onprem postgresql linux

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And i thought you were a DBA :)

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>Flexibility
The cloud is not flexible at all, on managed instances you don't even know what's running under the hood and have no way to tune parameters for your application (e.g. if you need to increase stats sampling, change wal size for mass loading of data...)

>Optimize cost
You can run hundreds thousands of queries a second on a laptop. That's a ~20w load. Loading a small nuc with 64G of ram and putting postgresql on it will probably be faster than cloud.

>Less maintenance
There is virtually no maintenance when you use good quality HW, stable OS and stable DB. And if DB version is not supported anymore, just pg_upgrade with minimal downtime.

>automate things
What can you automate that i don't?

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it is not about size, it's about the average transactional rate on the database by the application, like how many transactions per second, server requests, server response time, etc...

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No patching, no server maintenance, easy scalability, etc

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Flexibility, optimize cost, less maintenance, automate things, just use managed as service..if you have onprem, u have to take licence based on the cores. U have to setup physical environment, u have to hire many resources to mange all the things...many more advantages to move to cloud.. wherever SQL server is running now all companies migrating to azure cloud

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The issue is that you are probably comparing some sub-par sever with a cloud managed service which costs 10x as much

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When I was working in on-premises..I see everything dependencies ,hurdles though there are server or storage issues as a DBA we need to identify the cause and let the respective team know... Which frustrates DBA when it is production issue

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😂😂 somehow, but because it is a very well known company in the market, so really it has so many integration with literally everything bro

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And as with every Microsoft product, the more they develop it the more you lose control

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I mean, it has features but it's so artificially limited it's unusable

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And also in my opinion who I used also to work on SQL server and have a great experience on it, really postgreSQL once u understand it and have a deep knowledge of its architecture and internals, I find it way faster in I/O speed and overall capabilities than sql server in my humble opinion

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I mean activities are same but process the way completely different

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Completely different

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And we don't use command line

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As a DBA, it is your job to setup an maintain a DB, not resell a cloud service

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Only tsql is same in SQL server and postgresql. But DBA task completely different in both db

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Yea transaction rate is high bro.

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We have db size in tera bytes like 5 tb

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if really ur having a heavy workload, u will experience so many issues really and the cost will kill u back then

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Surely, there is an option in amazon portal to automatically scheduling the backups like Microsoft azure managed instance... why not using amazon portal itself?

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