Dosage check in
What dose per day is everyone currently using?
How do you split that dose up across the day?
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Lets see if less really IS more
Just took 5g instead of 8g in the morning. Lets see...
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Practical dosing question
Hello there.
I want to reintroduce kratom into my life after 6 weeks off. I was taking 25 grams daily for 2 years and quit because I realized I was dependent. Would wake up depressed and irritable before my first dose etc…
I know 25 GPD was too much for me, and I also know I used it irresponsibly which is why I ended up with that intake. Sometimes I would take more, and even throw down an extract shot every now and then.
Has anyone taken time off and had success getting back on at a lower daily amount? All I’m looking for is a little more motivation at work when things are slow/uninteresting, and less social anxiety.
I want to treat it like a medication where I take a certain amount in a routine manner. I know tolerance breaks can help, I’m very open to that.
Anyone that resonates with this, could you tell me what you did and how it’s working? I’d appreciate it. I can figure this out on my own but I’d rather have some insight from others, because I’m also open to just not having it be a part of my life if all I’m going to do is become dependent on higher doses again.
Thanks
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Kratom for chronic pain
I had heard that Agmatine potentials kratom. I put my kratom on my measuring teaspoon and opened an agmatine capsule and sprinkled it on top of the. Kratom and did my usual toss and wash. The pain relief was incredible. I have arthritis in all my joints and spine issues on top of an S curve scoliosis. I've been in pain since I was 16 and I'm in my 50's now.
Kratom has never given me any high or relaxation. It helps my pain which is why i take it.
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Anyone ever use Kratom for SSRI withdrawal?
Getting off 40mg Prozac in the past was brutal and I had brain zaps for months. I am now on 5mg lexapro because I needed the mental support but tried to stay on the smallest dose possible knowing how hard it is to wean. Anyone use Kratom for the withdrawal? Since I have Kratom in my life I feel I might be ready to take the leap, but im nervous. I’ve been on lexapro for about 6 months.
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Does Kratom just not work for some people?
I've tried several brands and strains, low, medium, and large doses. I've not noticed an effect, except feeling drowsy similar to how I would feel if I took Benadryl when I took a large dose. Admittedly, I've only ever tried capsules. Are capsules an inefficient way for the body to absorb it? Please forgive my ignorance. Thanks!
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I'm redosing to find my sweet spot - will tolerance creep up fast enough to skew my results?
After lurking for a while and reading the various consensuses on dosing, combos, etc, I'm going in. I have a white, green, and red strains to rotate. The last couple days I've been taking 3-4g of each, in order, for morning, afternoon, and evening. I definitely feel it, but I want to follow the "less is more" rule as much as I can. However, I'm still looking for my sweet spot. I start with 2g and add 2g, sometimes again for 6g serving (split in 3x2 every 30 min).
I know everyone's different, but if I did this for a week, would that be enough that my sweet spot may already be raised by tolerance? I certainly don't want to degrade the efficacy or lock myself in higher than I need to. I suppose ideally, I would just do a careful test every other day for a month, but the effects are helping me now!
Any thoughts/experiences welcome.
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It's almost over. I think?
My latest opiate use was raw poppy opium. I was addicted for probably 18 months. Man, that stuff takes a long time to come out the system. I've been on a two-week Kratom taper to get me off. Started on 8 gram doses every 5 hours. It kept off almost all the withdrawals. I was just left extremely weak. But no shits, I could eat, and function albeit slowly and with no enthusiasm.
These past few days I've only been feeling the need to dose in the middle of the night when I've been waking up feeling unwell. I still feel incredibly tired all day but I'm hoping the worst is over. I have one or two doses left and then I'm stepping off. It's not the taper I wanted, but it's the one I've got. No way to change any parameters now. I'll be down to about 5g/pd total and then going to none.
Should I expect withdrawal from that amount of Kratom? You ex-poppy heads, will the poppy withdrawal still be waiting for me once the Kratom is out my system? I hear withdrawals from that stuff lasts a month. I'm about to find out.
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Hi all!
I’m not brand new to kratom. A few years ago, a friend that works at a local head shop offered me powder after a discussion about my depression/anxiety. I drank it every morning in my coffee and fell in love with life again. I got that euphoric feeling everyday, had great sustained energy throughout the day. Then one day, I had a huge panic attack that made me disassociate. I was convinced it was the kratom and I didn’t touch it again for a couple of years.
After those years, my cousin was taking capsules to cut her opioid addiction. I took a few with her, hesitantly, but I really enjoyed it again and had no adverse effects that time.
Now, years later, I am a mom of 3. I’m married and living away from all of my family and finding myself struggling with depression and very low energy levels. I chalk that up to hormones mostly as I am 2 months postpartum.
I am wanting to give kratom another go. This time I want to know what I’m doing, what I’m getting, how to properly dose. Before, I just took in a rough tablespoon of whatever my friend gave me, asked zero questions about it, to be honest.
If anyone could give some pointers, tips, advice on what to start with, I’d be so grateful.
I’m looking for a good boost in mood, and energy that is not anxiety inducing.
Thanks!
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How can I help alleviate or prevent irritability/crankiness from kratom?
Almost every time the day after taking kratom my mood is noticeably worse and I become very irritable. I’ve read that this can be common but are there any strategies to avoid it?
For reference I only take kratom 1-3 times per week. Strictly red vein and always at night a few hours before bed and only take 3 grams.
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Withdrawals
So I’m in the process of tapering down my kratom use. I used kratom, and to a lesser extent, kava, to help me quit drinking alcohol. My use had progressed to two concentrate shots that come in purple bottles with yellow lettering a day, first one spread out in to a water bottle over 3-4 hours. The second I would knock out in one gulp at the end of the day. I realized I was abusing kratom, so now I have to get that under control. But I’m getting REALLY bad restlessness that wakes me up early in the morning. I take some red vein capsules before bed, but every morning around 4:00 I wake up and it almost feels like my whole body is buzzing like my legs if I sat cross legged for too long. How long can I expect that to last? It’s nothing compared to the withdrawals I experienced when I quit drinking, but it’s very unpleasant. I’m also really irritable if I haven’t dosed in a a few hours. Should I up my powder dose? I’m doing eight 0.5 mG capsules right before I lay down, and two or three doses of six capsules during the day.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here, don't crucify me. I think kratom does affect your liver in some way.
I've came to this after taking it for about 6 years roughly with a few breaks here and there.
Anytime I start drinking alcohol a little more I realize that my body isn't what it should be. I know that alcohol is detrimental to your body and liver health.
BUT when I am going through a phase of drinking consistently and I still take kratom 2-3 times a day at 5-6 gs per dose I feel my stomach immediately start to hurt where my liver is under my right rib cage.
I've gotten my enzymes tested a few times and they were elevated a few years ago but the few times they were still normal I was still having pain there.
I still get that same pain if I were to take a few Tylenol and 2-4 types of vitamins.
I take magnesium, zinc, l -lysine occasionally and sometimes for extra pain releif Tylenol, advil or aleve.
I feel like sometimes after a night of drinking for a few days when I take my kratom dose I get this pain under my ribcage and liver area. It's like a slow creep of stomach pain and almost gives me a pain in my back that's how much it hurts..
I understand I shouldn't be drinking and it affects my liver but why do I only feel this way when I take kratom even when not drinking that day.
It has to affect your liver in some negative way wether it's small or large. So my theory is that when combined with drinking or medication use that also could affect your liver is that kratom could push it over the edge to the point where it's doing damage.
Im planning on stopping drinking even on weekends for a while and I'll see if this clears up. But I just wanted to share what I think.
You guys might be using it for a long
Time with zero issues but I'm pretty in tune with my body and can pinpoint that kratom is causing this type of pain.
I also wonder if it's because I toss and wash? I chug back with a ton of water after tnw and am hydrated through the day I'm sure of it. I carry around a 44 oz water bottle and fill it at least 3-4 times a day since I'm active at work.
Now I gotta ask could the tnw method cause more stress on your gastro intestinal issues because of the non water soluble material I'm probably lacing my stomach with? Could it just FEEL like my liver is hurting and it's something else? I can't pinpoint. But I do know that taking kratom with my lifestyle and medication is causing some issues and discomfort here and there.
Any help would be appreciated and please don't think I'm trying to give it a bad rap because that's not what this is about.
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What states are in jeopardy? I realize how ppl get to stay alive and be good parents for their kids bc of Kratom. All the while not truly getting “high” so this is pretty important stuff. If not for the countless adult lives than than children that are unfortunately dealing with parents on hard drug
Man if I really look at it Kratom is not causing problems out there. It is saving these children’s parents well the ones that are fortunate enough to be able to switch to something light like Kratom. Funny how it came out the same time fentanyl did. Remain honest don’t over sell it and stay sober. Speak up when u see a state fighting it’s goes so much deeper than what some ppl see.
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Kratom on Search Engine Podcast
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60-75 grams per day
Happy to say, after using 60-75+ grams per day I am down to 5-10 grams per day! No longer have withdrawals, bowel system is back to normal, and tons of positives! I was using 60-75+ grams a day for about 5 years.. One day a couple months ago, I just got sick of it & shut it all down. I luckily didn’t struggle with it much at all, and I’m thankful for that! I’ll happily answer any questions, if anyone has any. Just wanted to post that quitting/slowing waaay down is 100% doable, even though a few months ago I thought slowing down/quitting was going to be impossible!
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How to stop taking monster shits that clog my toilet
Like seriously, almost every second shit I take clogs my toilet cuz they are monster logs, im sick of having to plunger my toilet or pour four different types of chemicals into the toilet bowl. Ive tried flushing mid shit and still, I cant seem to fix it. What can I do?
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Is kratom really that bad for you? They have it at the store and it looks fun. I'm looking for a new hobby to try.
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Tips for tapering down Kratom dose?
I’ve stupidly let my tolerance get pretty high and my daily doses have increased lately. Now I’m running low and the soonest I can get another order is in a week from now.
I really rely on Kratom to get through the day (self medicating for my mental disorders you could say). Anyone have alternative or tips for making the most of the little I have? Or any way to get through the discomfort of reducing my dose?
Thanks!
EDIT: I’ve also been having night sweats lately since my doses have increased could this be tied to kratom use? Not kratom withdrawal as I haven’t yet lowered my dose
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Crushed leaf gram conversion
anyone know how many grams of crushed leaf equates to powder? If I’m using crushed leaf to make tea certainly it’s not equivalent to if I were using straight powder gram to gram. I wonder if there’s any info out there on how much is extracted into the water.
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Separation of plant matter?
Is there any way to separate the plant matter from the Mitragynine and other alkaloids? (That doesn't necessarily require a whole chemistry lab)
I know Mitragynine is a thickle bitch that loves to hide deep inside the cell walls of the plant but is it possible to separate the plant matter from the Mitragynine (I'm not talking about an extraction but more isolation)
I've looked online and it all seemed outside my logistical capabilities.
Due to digestive issues and not being able to consume a lot of fibrous plant matter I was looking at ways to make it more digestible.
(I guess extraction could work but it sounds like a lot of concentrated plant matter and might not produce the results I'm looking for but I'm not 100% against it)
I fear the cell wall and Mitragynine isn't so easily separated but I bet someone on here has some tricks.
But any advice would be cool.
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Why does everyone say "less is more"
Seriously. If I had a nickel for everytime I saw it in this subreddit. I'd have like 30 cents.
I feel like im going crazy, no one seems to have any straight answers or real descriptions of anything negative from kratom, its just like a lot of people are parroting "less is more, it's impossible to quit too"
So, first of all, why on earth would I want to quit? If the only negative thing is, that it's hard to quit. I have no desire to quit now, or ever. Life before kratom was so much suckier.
Look, im sorry, I know its cool to be sober. It's what all the cool kids are doing. "Doing it on your own". Pulling your mental health up by the bootstraps. But i don't wanna.
Convince me that, this is any worse than coffee (in the same family of plants, btw), which millions of people drink to excess everyday. No one hassles them. No one says "less is more", no one says "it's impossible to quit". (Which btw, coffee is impossible to quit, but once again, idc, i like my life better with some caffeine in it).
Do you know what is possible to quit? Alcohol and Weed. Because they both affect my life negatively.
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Washington State makes preliminary move to ban kratom after passing KCPA in 2023
The commission’s action follows a June 15, 2024 petition from an external party urging the classification of kratom’s active compounds, mitragynine and 7-hydroxymitragynine, as Schedule I substances.
This preproposal kicks off a three-step rule-making process by Washington’s Department of Health.
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Kratom made my life better
I’ve been using Kratom daily for about five years now, and I’ve found it to be a huge positive in my life. Before that, I was smoking a lot of weed and downing energy drinks like they were water. Both of those things are out of my life now, and Kratom has been my go-to. It brings me happiness and a sense of well-being, but more importantly, it helps me manage chronic pain in a way that nothing else has.
I know there’s a lot of stigma around Kratom because it’s not FDA-approved, but I’ve been through withdrawals with caffeine and weed, and I think anything you use regularly is something your body grows to depend on. To me, the key is finding what works for you. I’ve accepted that I’m the kind of person who’s always had something—whether it was cannabis, alcohol, caffeine, or even candy—and for me, Kratom feels like the right choice. At $35 a kilo, I’m getting something that works for my body and my life without breaking the bank.
I know some people prefer to live with no substances at all, and I totally respect that, but for me, I’ve learned I have to pick my battles. Kratom lets me be a better dad, a better husband, and most importantly, it helps me not live in pain every day. So I’m curious, for those of you who have been using Kratom or have thoughts on it—what’s your experience been like? How do you view its role in your life?
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Involuntarily going through withdrawals
More of a rant than anything else.
I ordered my Kratom on friday and so far, it's still stuck somewhere on the road. Even paid extra for it to arrive earlier than usual.
I'm a daily user and have been so for a few years. Taking about 9g twice a day.
I haven't had anything since monday. My head feels weird, as if I'm having a really bad flu. I'm tired and cold, woke up every 1-2 hours tonight and I got absolutely TERRIBLE RLS in my entire body.
Luckily I'm already on sick leave and do not have to work like this, but I'm still pissed. I feel terrible and don't even have the motivation to do anything to distract myself.
Lets just hope the package at least arrives tomorrow.
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Need advice please
My boyfriend is suffering from pain from an unknown disorder right now and i recommended Kratom but it has been years since I've taken it. I can't remember the website where i bought the actual leaves (not like one of those weird 5 hour energy looking one, but the actual kratom leaves dried with nothing added). What is the best website to use to ship to Illinois and what would be the best strain(s) for him?
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Low sex drive
Alright fellas which of have had sex drive/ED due to kratom use and did you find a fix for it?
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Ppl that take Kratom that didn’t have substance abuse problems. Why do u take it if not for pain? Supposedly it does work for pain I just never really noticed it.
Like as disgusting and as little effects it has I couldn’t imagine like starting Kratom. Well it does give some energy so I see that point too.
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Keep the effect going
Hey,
Most people say that you shouldn’t re-dose Kratom and that it’s best to wait 4 hours between each dose. Isn’t it possible to maintain a certain level? For example, by taking a small dose every 30 minutes? It works with alcohol or cannabis too. I’m a recreational user and use Kratom rarely and in low doses, so I’m not worried that frequent re-dosing will lead to quicker dependence or tolerance.
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Capsule questions
Does anyone he know about how many grams are in a capsule? I know theirs a few different sizes that I’ve came across but mainly asking about the bigger size. I’ve tried kratom in powder, liquid, cap form and prefer the caps the best but taking 8 at a time feels like a lot I guess I could weight them but ik you guys have a lot more knowledge on the topic.
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Kratom and sleep
I've been so blessed to find kratom. It got me through a very difficult depression several years ago. And since that time I've enjoyed a little kick in the evening before bed. I usually take 3.5 grams about 2 hours before bed. It's very relaxing. I've unfortunately been having bad sleep problems for a while. I wake up at least 4 to 6 times a night. I thought it was the hrt therapy I started. But im wondering if anyone else has the same problems with sleep and kratom?
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