Agamite sulfate and other supplements
Hey guys I have an upcoming trip to Scotland in august, and I have to taper off or quit until that. Recently I did a 3 day long cold turkey quit because of a trip, and it was hell. I was taking around 30 gpd (also this much now) and when I stopped I got some incredible withdrawals. I'm talking rls, extreme diarrhea, fever etc. I'm trying to prepare well for the next quit.
First of all, I have 2 months, but they are pretty active too so I need the mental focus, I'm not sure I can take a week off just to suffer. Would a slow taper be more suitable for me?
Also, what are your experiences with agamite? If you took it, what was the plan? Can you please also suggest supplements that can help? The ones that are on my list: magnesium-bysglicinate, l-tyrosine, liposomal vitamin C, l-glutamine
Thanks in advance!
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Cold Brew Kratom Tea
Hi all, I hope everyone's having a fantastic weekend.
I just discovered an interesting way to use my loose leaf kratom supply. I made a cold brew overnight. Shoved a bunch of loose leaf in the strainer, attached it to the caraffe, filled it with water and pure lemon juice, let it sit for around 18 hours so far.
It isn't bad at all.
I'm wondering if I'm getting a similar amount of "the good stuff" doing it that way, or not?
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Kratom + Vicodin
I've been using Kratom daily for about 2 years now. It's around 15g split up 3 times.
I was just prescribed 5/325 Vicodin for an injury. I would like to use the Vicodin more for relaxation than pain. Tylenol has been helping for the pain.
I'm guessing it's not safe to combine the 2 at the same time, so what's the best route to max the enjoyment of the Vicodin?
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Agamatine Sulfate - what's the deal?
I keep hearing that some people have used it successfully to lower tolerance but I've also heard other people say that it actually blunts the effects. I just want to lower my intake I'm hoping someone here has used it and can report back please??
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Kratom still helps my pain, but the mood benefits seem to have plateaued
Hi everyone,
A few weeks ago I posted about how much kratom had helped me. It improved both my pain and mood regulation, and I was able to start exercising again, help more around the house, spend time with family, and stop spending most of my days in bed.
Since then, however, I've continued increasing my activity level and also my kratom dose. I was around 8 gpd when I last posted, and I'm now at about 15 gpd.
Recently I've become pretty burned out and flared up. I tried increasing the dose a couple more times, but noticed that it didn't provide much additional benefit. That has made me wonder whether I've reached a ceiling where increasing the dose further is no longer helping, at least for mood regulation.
The interesting thing is that kratom still seems to be helping my pain quite a bit, but it doesn't seem to be helping my emotional regulation nearly as much as it was before.
My current plan is to slow down, pace myself better, get plenty of rest, hold my dose steady, and eventually try tapering gradually to see whether a lower dose still provides adequate pain relief.
I'm curious whether others here have experienced something similar. Did you find that the mood benefits plateaued before the pain benefits? If you reached a point where increasing the dose no longer helped, what did you do?
Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated.
Thank you.
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have yall noticed any negative effects if you’ve used for years?
curious
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Flying from Colorado to Missouri
Will I have any issues? I need 250 capsules to last me my entire trip. I’m worried about them confiscating them and being in withdrawal my entire trip.
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Virginia News
So it looks like HB 360 was recently signed into law. It bans 7oh products and all kratom products must be behind the counter or locked. It also requires kratom products to have a warning label that it can cause "addiction and opioid like withdrawal".
Am I missing anything? What does everyone think about this one? Not a KCPA but good that it's not a ban.
It was pushed by Dean Francis and his "End Kratom Addiction" organization. This guy doesn't even have a death to grieve over. His student athele son became addicted apparently, so now it has to be our problem. They are framing this as a victory, but I know they wanted a full ban.
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Drug test
Hey yall. I have an appointment at the pain clinic on June 8th. I used Kratom heavily (10-20 gpd) for the last three weeks. I stopped today. Will I fail for Kratom or whatever on the 8th? I see so many different things online about drug tests etc anyone have experience on this?
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Ohio Kratom Policy Review — Input Needed Now Before Final Action
🚨 OHIO KRATOM ACTION ALERT 🚨
Ohio is at a critical turning point right now.
The Ohio Board of Pharmacy has already moved forward on rules targeting synthetic kratom compounds and products and high potency synthetics, but there is STILL ongoing concern over separate proposals involving plain leaf kratom.
This is the time to contact:
• Ohio legislators in the General Assembly
• JCARR (Joint Committee on Agency Rule Review)
JCARR reviews whether state agencies like the Board of Pharmacy are exceeding their authority or improperly creating rules without legislative approval.
The message needs to stay focused:
➡️ Regulate dangerous synthetic products.
➡️ Protect adults.
➡️ Do NOT Schedule I natural plain leaf kratom.
Personal stories matter more than copy-paste form letters right now. If plain leaf kratom helped you reclaim mobility, reduce pain, avoid stronger substances, or improve quality of life, respectfully tell them.
Key Ohio sources:
• Ohio Board of Pharmacy Proposed Rules:
https://www.pharmacy.ohio.gov/lawsrules/proposedrules
• JCARR information:
https://www.jcarr.state.oh.us/
• Ohio House:
https://ohiohouse.gov/
• Ohio Senate:
https://ohiosenate.gov/
JCARR contact often shared by advocates:
jcar@lsc.ohio.gov
Ohio Board of Pharmacy Rule references people are watching closely:
• Rule 4729:9-1-01.1 SYNTHETICS only, but no labeling for consumption (silent ban)
• Rule 4729:9-1-01.2 proposed to schedule PLAIN LEAF (mitragynine as Schedule I Substance)🌿
Ohio needs regulation and consumer protections — not another rushed prohibition that hurts responsible adults using plain leaf kratom responsibly.
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NOT asking for recs
I'm not asking for brand or website recommendations.
All I want to know is if you can buy kratom online, possibly by the kilo. And what are the problems that could arise?
I'm not a commercial vendor. I'm in Hawaii.
Are there any extra duties/taxes added on arrival?
Anything else that I should be aware of?
Thank you for your help.
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Does consumption method affect taper?
Typically I use oblate discs, but occasionally I just drink it mixed into coffee or milk. I notice it feels considerably more effective drinking, so I would need less to get the same effects.
My question basically is, if I reduce my GPD by drinking it rather than using discs, am I still tapering properly or is my body absorbing more kratom this way?
Usual dose is 8g but drinking I can reduce it to 7 easily, possibly even more. But if I took that 7g dose with discs I would feel like it’s cutting too fast. I hope I’m explaining myself clearly, maybe I’m just overthinking it.
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Switching from extracts
Hello,
I started taking leaf kratom a year ago after I was 1 year post op from a bowel resection and still feeling a lot of pain. I quickly switched to extracts. I currently take a 5 tablet pack of Nano tech mitragynine tablets a day. So 400 mgs. I know thats a good bit. Its ruining me. I am tired all the time. I'd eventually like to be off of everything all together so I can work out some health issues. But of course the withdrawal is absolutely killer. So I got some white leaf capsules and was hoping to switch. Is this doable? The concentrate is way too expensive first of all, I'm bankrupting myself and like I said I'm exhausted. Just looking for some guidance on how to make the switch. I don't know if a taper will be possible for me. I'm a very "all or nothing" type of user. With anything lol. But I am a mom, I have two toddlers and a demanding career. I need to be saving money. I need my energy back. I feel very hopeless right now.
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Have to drive from Dallas to SC in June….
Sheesh…. Made the same drive almost 2 yrs ago by avoiding AR and all was fine. No worries. Didn’t miss anything in AR anyway.
Now….. looks like I have to go WAY out of the way.
TN looks ok until July….
The way the map is looking…. might not even be able to do this at all in a few years.
Thinking about that poor girl who thought she was in FL but was actually in AL and got pulled over and was facing prison time?
I know the odds are ridiculously low I would get pulled over and searched. I’ve never been pulled over and searched.
But still….. didn’t have to worry about this before.
That’s based on the latest KCPA map.
Looks like:
AR: no
LA: no
TN: ok
KY: ok
MO: yes
OK: yes
MS: yes?
AL: no
GA: ok
Side note…. Didn’t even realize KY was a KCPA state until it wasn’t. What is the deal with these states passing the KCPA and then reversing it a year or so later?!?? Give me a break.
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Potentiators and Tapering down
I want to start tapering down a little bit, but I was curious if to help with this If there’s anything that you can take that potentiates the dose so it acts like a larger dose.
I’ve been reading into Agmatine and that it may help make a smaller dose feel like a larger dose.
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Kratom and abilify + dueloxetine
Is it safe to take kratom once while on 10mg of ability and while taking duloxetine. I don’t plan to take it regularly. I know it has enzyme inhibiting effects in the liver so I wanted to get other’s opinions. I would just smoke weed but can’t do that for job purposes. If want to stop taking the abillify but currently on 10 mg till next appointment.
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Going to Mexico
Going to mexico next week.
I've been told everything's allowed there, but how is it flying with a couple bottles of full spectrum kratom extract? I don't expect to have any problems but just wanted to check if anyone else had experience with this.
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Used 8–10 GPD for 1.5 months, 15 GPD for 2 weeks — how would you taper from here?
For those of you who have tapered successfully, how would you approach this situation?
Starting from scratch, I was around 8–10 gpd for about 1.5 months and have only been around 14–15 gpd for the past two weeks.
The higher dose isn't providing much additional emotional benefit anymore, although it still helps my pain.
My current thought is to stabilize at around 8 gpd and then taper gradually following the tapering guide in this sub, but I'm wondering whether I'm being overly cautious given that I've only been at the higher dose for a short period of time.
If you were in my shoes, would you:
* Hold steady for a while first?
* Drop back to your previous effective dose fairly quickly?
* Taper slowly from the current dose?
I'd be especially interested in hearing from people who used kratom for pain and emotional regulation.
Thanks.
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Prozac and Kratom unsafe?
Heyyy so I've been on kratom for probably 8 years ish, and I do less now than I used to (currently 4-12 gpd split into two doses)
A week ago I started Prozac 10 mg. I haven't been on an ssri in years, used to take Lexapro.
I only last night did a quick Google search and it said ssri and Kratom can cause serotonin sickness and of course that set my anxiety off, but looking in the subs I see that many people take both. I know everyone is different and I'm not looking for medical advice, just wondering y'all's experience. Thanks!
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Time Release
Has anyone had any success with a time release method for ingesting mitragynines?
The goal would be to show down the release and processing of mitragyna over an extended timeframe, think reds for sleeping or whites for a workday. At least 8 hours up to 12 would be better.
If there's a better sub for this question please let me know?
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how many times a day do you dose?
i average 1-3 times a day when i do
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Kratom Test
Kratom
On pretrial probation.Worried sick and just got a great deal today from prosecutor before taking. I assumed I would be fine as they said I can smoke Marijuana. Would be a terrible situation to biolate for me right now...
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I take 2.5 grams in the morning. 5 g in the afternoon. Will this be hard to quit?
I know those aren’t huge doses but I’m just wondering what withdrawals would be like if I went cold turkey.
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Please share your best potentiator tips
Title. Citric acid is a given, and I've used ginger in the mix now and then but I'm not sure how much of an effect it has.
Cayenne pepper? Agmatine before a dose?
Thanks everyone. :)
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Kratom for sub WD
I’ve just completed a 2-month Suboxone taper. I am 4 days off of it completely. I am experiencing worse withdrawal than during the taper, which is incredibly frustrating. I’m wondering if people have experience taking Kratom or 7-Hydroxymitragynine tablets during the Suboxone withdrawal phase and whether or not it extends the withdrawals or just provides comfort. I am aware of the risks of switching from one drug to another. I’m just looking for answers on what it can do to help or if it is just a temporary band-aid that reopens worse after the initial relief.
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Kratom virgin who needs help
Hello all, hoping someone can help me with dosing! I am a first time kratom user, and I was wondering how much to take (using for pain and only temporary until I feel better). I was going to take before bed and put it in some tea. For reference, im small. About 5'3 and 100 lbs. I want to feel relaxed and calm, not euphoric and awake. Any tips? Its just a powder blend. I don't intend to make capsules with it.
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1 Gallon of Tea Recipe Request
Hello, I'd like to brew a gallon of kratom at a time and store it in my fridge. I've got 2 keys of kratom powder, citric acid, and cinnamon. With those ingredients in mind, could one of you please provide a suggested method for brewing a gallon of tea at a time? I'm able to get additional equipment or ingredients as needed.
Bula!
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Kratom once again saves the day. lol
Not gonna go too much into detail but it just turned a probably horrific day instantly into a good one yay
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Extreme tiredness on kratom, why?
I have been experimenting with kratom these past couple of days and whenever I dose higher than 2 grams I get *extremely* sleep, I can barely keep my eyes open, literally. Not even high doses of benzos do this to me lol I have been trying different doses trying to find the sweet spot for stimulation, but either it does nothing at all or I get this excessive tiredness. I have kratom white and also kratom green and I don't notice much of a difference tbh.
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I wish I'd stock up as soon as I heard about the ban.
The most magical thing is that once you're forced into this position, to basically be told that you have to accep that using kratom can now jeopardize my freedom, and there's no more of it - that's when you finally start to actually appreciate this plant's healing properties for real. I've been on suboxone many many years ago. I still have some left. Though I'm not planning on taking it ever again. Kratom was superior. It didn't make me feel like I'm on some pharmaceutical garbage at all, and I could comfortably go a day or two without it. The energy it gave, the mood stabilization properties. I've quit drinking alcohol because of it too. I never felt any adverse effects from kratom either. I remember my first days with it, when I'd take too much and have to puke. But man, I've learned to love and appreciate it so much, that now that it's gone - I legit don't know if I'll be able to live a quality-life without it. I don't smoke weed. I have cptsd. And weed triggers some shitty feelings in me. I'm basically just back to drinking, heavily, and I hate it. I'm still experiencing the physical withdrawals, mainly the damn fatigue and restless legs. I've had pain pills prescribed to be in the past, and I think I may still have a few. But I'm legit scared. I don't want to start taking them. Because then I'll be withdrawing from pills. And then I'll probably decide to get on subs again. God, I'm so sad that kratom is gone. This is just a rant I guess. To make you all realize that you guys in the legal states don't exactly know how good you have it. I wish I bought kilos right before the ban. I must've spent half the day today reading up hundreds of pages trying to find alternatives to kratom. Little spoiler, there isn't anything that comes close to this magnificent plant. There's some close siblings to it, mainly mitragyna histura and mitragyna javanica. But those don't share the same alkaloids that kratom has. Plus, histura and javanica are plants that get processed in the same facilities as kratom, hence why I don't even care to buy it because I'm 99% it'd test for mitragynine and 7-hydroxymitragynine (kratom). Plus those sibling plants of kratom haven't been thoroughly tested on humans, and I don't think I want to start fucking up my insides over some mystery plant that hopefully has a small trace amounts of kratom in it. Yeah there's kanna, kava, akuamma I heard is close just not very stimulating. The moral of this is enjoy it while you have it. I feel heart broken that my state has made this damn plant a schedule I drug. I'm seriously disgusted by it. Ban all the 7oh products, ban all the damn extracts - but leave the damn kratom leaf and powder alone - God Dammit.
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