Lowered to 7g and still feeling similar levels of chill
As someone who daily for years was taking 15 to 20g. Equating to around 70g per day.
I've cut it down, this morning with my coffee I've taken 7g and will be limiting to one hit.
Fingers crossed it works out as I still feel my anxiety melting away
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Kratom = FELONY in Arkansas. No one seems to know there's a bill trying to change that..
The Arkansas Department of Health classified kratom as a schedule 1 narcotic in 2015. They held a ONE day forum open to the public, except no one knew about it because it was buried in other agenda dockets.
Guess who showed up though? A doctor that owned a local methadone clinic and realized he was losing customers. He faced zero pushback and it was criminalized shortly after.
Possession of just 2 grams of kratom is a Class D felony in Arkansas, the same as heroin. 28+ grams has a penalty of up to 20 years in prison.
Fortunately, there's FINALLY a bill trying to stop this madness. Unfortunately, no one seems to know about it... just like when they criminalized it.
For the love of God, please help spread the word. This is absolute madness.
This is the bill:
SB534 - TO ESTABLISH THE ARKANSAS KRATOM CONSUMER PROTECTION ACT; AND TO REMOVE MITRAGYNINE AND 7-HYDROXYMITRAGYNINE, ALSO KNOWN AS KRATOM, FROM THE CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES LIST IN ARKANSAS.
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body stuff. Over 1 year.
Does anybody else take this frequently? three times a day. how do you deal with the constipation and the, sorry sorry sorry, wide dookies? I'm getting hemroids constantly. I asked google and I am taking docusate with sennoside. I drink over a gallon ot water a day, I eat very little fast food. I am a mechanic so I'm not stationary and I lift wheels/ tires hourly.
I worry the hemroids would turn into Collen/ other cancer due to the abnormal condition I'm putting myself thru.
I can't quit yet this is part harm reduction part energy supplementing while I'm in trade school.
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Mississippi House & Senate pass KCPA Conference Report
Mississippi has lots of ongoing proposed kratom legislation, lots of it bad, but has passed the KCPA Conference Report. The Botanics for Better Health and Wellness group has worked hard in Mississippi to protect consumers and pass this legislation
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Just took a 22g tablespoon
It's 12am and i can't sleep. I normally take between 9 and 12g throughout the day for pain.
My insomnia is being a pain tonight so I saw online 15g and up has a sedative effect so I weighed out a heaped dessert spoon which was 22g gram of powdered leaf. Super maeng dai.
Fingers crossed it knocks me out.
Just wanted to see if anyone else has tried kratom for the sedation effect?
Apologies for grammer/typos I'm on mobile.
Thanks,
T.
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Is hydroxyzine a good substitute for kratom?
I’m in the middle of tapering off and it’s taking forever and so expensive. I heard ab hydroxyzine. Is it cheaper in that it offers the same effects for less money?
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Is old kratom good?
Hi all!
About 5 yrs ago, I started to get really into kratom. I bought a lot of samples and larger amts. It seemed to work okay for pain. Then, unrelated, I had to have a bowel resection (diverticulitis). Constipation became a huge issue so I stopped using kratom. Now I'm wondering, is that old stuff still good? Or should I just toss it?
Thanks!
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Blood work 3 year 20gpd user
Got blood work done as it had been 4ish years since I checked my liver, kidney, lipids etc. and was nervous like everyone else is about kratom use and if I tolerated it okay. I have used 20 grams per day toss and wash pretty much continuously for 3 years.
All my levels were in fantastic ranges. Liver enzymes on the low-normal side, lipids all in check, blood glucose, and I even did a urinalysis for kidney function. All clear!
Cheers guys, get your bloods done :)
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Couple questions about brewing Kratom tea
Okay I got a couple questions.
1. How much lemon juice should be used for maximum extraction
2. How hot should it be? 175°?
3. How long to let "steep"
4. I think that's it
I think I already know but I'm looking for some people opinions/facts or what works best for you. Any advice welcome even if it isn't about tea
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(maybe) Kratom related nightmare
I'm not sure if it's caused by kratom... Anyway...
I had one teaspoon of white kratom last night. When the effect wore off, I lay down and watched educational YouTube videos. I fell asleep in about half an hour.
Then I had perhaps the most intense and realistic nightmare of my life. I woke up after an hour of sleep and had to spend a long time making sure I was okay. I was extremely confused because even within that nightmare, I woke up many times. So when I woke up in reality, I wasn't sure if reality wasn't just another part of the nightmare.
Luckily, I was able to fall asleep soon (without the help of kratom - I never use the sedative variants of kratom for sleep)), and the rest of the night went smoothly - No dreams at all, if you remember correctly).
I don't remember much of the content of the nightmare... I only vaguely remember that the nightmare indirectly told me that using kratom was a bad idea. (I have been trying to cut down on my kratom use for some time now, with little success.... But I don't have strong reasons because I always find myself taking my white when I'm low on motivation, bored, or in a bad mood. The only thing that motivates me to take at least a micro-break is when I experience side effects due to my frequent use of kratom, such as sadness during the comedown, morning laziness, or severe constipation)
PS: Maybe this nightmare wasn't caused by kratom... I've taken kratom before bed many times, but this has never happened to me)
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Salicylate content of kratom
Well this is a long shot but does anyone know if kratom (plain leaf, not extract) is high or low in salicylates? No info that I could find anywhere but I figured perhaps someone here might now.
I have to transition to a salicylate-free diet. Unfortunately my hunch is that kratom at 14gpd would have a fair bit of salicylates.
I was wondering if perhaps I could instead take the pure mitragynine which would contain no plant matter but it seems like a bad idea.
I am currently tapering off kratom and it sucks, and I have no reason to be doing it except to eliminate salicylates from my diet.
Any info would be highly appreciated!
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Need help with making Kratom Tea
Hey y'all. I've been using regular kratom for about 8 years now, and it has saved my life. I normally just use capsules because of the convenience. Lately, I have been thinking about switching over to tea bc I have a bunch of powder to use. What's the best way to go about making tea? I normally take between 6-8 grams doses so how much would i use for tea? And if I could get 2 servings out of a recipe that'd be even better. Hopefully someone can enlighten me bc I want to try this later on today
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Please sign and share this petition
This is the petition for Florida https://chng.it/TrMc2yrTJX
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Anyone interested in buying King Kratom extract powder?
I don't believe you can find this extract anymore for sale. This was my favorite extract when I was still using leaf. I have 18 1oz packages and 2 4oz packages, all sealed and brand new. DM me if interested
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After years of being an all day sipper Im trying out the toss and wash method
I used to sip it all throughout the day in a sugary drink to disquise the taste and i kinda liked that i can control when i get a little kick. .
but the calories and being tied to a bottle all day is too much. .
quick question for those who toss and wash. . how many hours in between doses do you wait? 2 hours? 4 hours? or just see how you feel?
Thanks!
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Recently took a 8 almost 9 day break
It’s easy to gradually increase your kratom usage, and in my experience, tapering off within 1-2 months is manageable. I was using 16-18 grams of kratom tea daily and discarding the leftovers after 2 washes. I added 7-OH about 9 times, and in that 19-day span, I noticed that even 9 grams of regular kratom didn’t help with withdrawals, especially at night, which we all try to avoid.
I took an 8-day cold turkey break, and surprisingly, by day 6, I started feeling better. After 9 days off, I remembered how kratom and a little 7-OH used to work well together, so I tried a mitragynine shot with around 8-10mg of 7-OH. It seemed effective at first, but after a few days, I ended up using around 20mg of 7-OH per day, with one day at 40mg.
Even after a tolerance reset, I felt it was best to stick to regular kratom. I’ve been using about 6 grams of kratom leaf daily, with a small amount of 7-OH, but I still feel a bit of depression. Today, I’m at 11 grams, which is the most I’ve done in a while. I’ve realized that staying below 8 grams of regular kratom works best for me and is easier to taper off from if needed.
From this experience, I've learned that even small amounts of 7-OH (under 30mg/day) can lead to addiction. I’ve done a few detoxes recently, and 7-OH caused some intense withdrawals. What’s strange is that after taking a 20mg tab, I didn’t feel it at all the next day. It has the addictive qualities of opiates without much of the payoff.
I wouldn't recommend using 7-OH regularly—it can easily mess with your tolerance. Regular kratom does the job, and if you struggle with moderation, it’s best to avoid 7-OH entirely. If you’re on the fence about quitting, I’ve heard regular mitragynine extract can help with tapering off.
It’s just not worth it. 7-OH can make your baseline worse, and you’ll regret ever using it. Everyone’s chemistry is different, but for me, it's not worth it.
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Question for a first time user
Hey guys, as the title mentioned I haven’t tried Kratom before. I picked up some tablets (750 mg each) on my way home from work, but before I take one, I wanted to know if it is safe to mix with adderall? I have a prescription, and 9/10 weekday mornings I take 20mg. Is it safe to take a tablet tonight, or should I wait until tomorrow? I’m a 23 year old man 5’10 160 lbs if that has anything to do with it. Thanks in advance :)
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New to Kratom wondering how dosing works
Just bought some and was wondering how much you guys think is a good dose. I got the green vein Malay 60 capsules - 36 grams.
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Kratom high
What is a kratom high supposed to feel like? I take 1 and one half of 170mg mitryagine bottles split into 3 doses a day and I don’t feel very much am I taking enough?
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Quitting small amount
I'm trying to quit a small amount. I year use
6-10 gram day. Usually 3 times a day x 3
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How Easy is it to get Withdrawal from Kratom
I've been reading about so many people taking this daily in smaller amounts. How quickly does tolerance build, and how quickly might you experience W/D symptoms if you were to take this regularly and only once a day in smaller amounts?
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I just took 12g of green kratom for the first time and i'm scared
I didn't find much info on the internet and asked chatgpt and it says 5 to 15g is sedative, but now i'm reading reddit and people are calling another guy crazy because he took 10g now i'm scared, Should I go to the hospital?
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Are Acetylstein and Azithromycin HEC safe to use?
Hey 😊
It got me at saturday - throatpain and the Cough... Just wanted to make sure the medicine my doctor gave me is save to use while on kratom.
Of course I dont demand a medical professional view, just want to look if people here have experience and that It doesnt kill me lol
Thank you very much!
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Finally found a good measured dosage for daily use. My moods have been amazing and I actually feel more outgoing/ extroverted, which has really improved my job performance (customer-facing role).
(I’ve never done powder, only capsules, so I’m not sure of the mg)
I’ll take six Green (usually Borneo) and then about five hours later, I take another six (either Green or Maeng Da). Keeps me feeling really pleasant for most of the day. For a couple years I was tossing back 10-12 capsules once a day, thinking that would give me a surge, but in hindsight the effect actually was less than what I feel with my current, more gradual dosage.
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Understanding the Legislative Process for Kratom Ban Hearings
I’m trying to educate myself more about the legislative process, especially when it comes to protecting kratom. Could someone explain how these hearings work when ban bills are introduced, like the recent one in Texas?
Additionally, is there a standard procedure for submitting testimony, even for those who don’t live in the state? I know we can send our stories to relevant representatives, but is there a way to officially submit testimony for the meeting record?
I appreciate any insights, and thanks in advance for helping me understand this process!
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How do I quit if it’s the only thing that helps with Chronic back pain besides hydros?
I don’t hate Kratom, I actually enjoy it lost if the time, but it makes me sick from time to time and I’d rather just not do it.
I have major disc problems, nerve damage, and inflammation in my back, and the only thing outside of hydros that have helped most of the pain subside is Kratom.
Im told I’m too young for back surgery, which I find bs cause a friend of mine 5 years younger than me was approved and got back surgery, but my health care is the VA, so they kinda suck ass anyways.
The job I work at is so hard on my back, but I don’t have other options here that pay well enough that are easier on my back. I’ve actually job hopped the last couple years just trynna find a balance, and I can never win.
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The Effects Of Taking Less Kratom Had Surprised Me
So I have been taking kratom daily for 4 years, before that it was just more sporadicly for a year or two like once a week. Past couple years my average dose is probably around 16gpd. At one point I was up close to 30gpd but that didn’t last more that a few months, I quickly decided it as too much and I wasn’t feeling well on it. 14-16 grams dosed 2 grams every 2 hours throughout the day worked well enough.
But I recently decided to taper off and give myself at least 6 months without kratom to see how it is. I think it’s a good idea to give my mind and body a break and find other ways to cope with life instead of just covering up my emotions. I have nothing against doing that, life is rough.. Kratom is great when used properly. But I am always learning what “properly” really means.
So I cut my dose to 8gpd over 4 doses a day for the first 10 days. That was not a fun 10 days, but it was very doable. I was just very up and down during the day with my emotions, sometimes I felt pretty deep depression and anxiety which sucked. The physical withdrawal symptoms weren’t terrible though and I could sleep fine.
Then for 5 days I went to 6.5 gpd over 4 doses. 1.5, 1.5, 1.5, then 2 grams in the evening to make sure I slept well.
That drop was not as hard.
So for my next drop I decided to do 6gpd but instead of every 4 hours I went to 6 doses throughout the day of 1 gram each with the intention of slowly reducing the dose size by 100mgs every 5 days.
I changed to this so I would just be more stable throughout the day and not so up and down with my emotions.
But what I have found now that by body and mind are used to being on a lower dose is that taking 1 gram doses still provide me more than enough of the benefits of kratom. I still get a nice calm mildly euphoric focus. It’s pretty close to how I felt taking 16gpd… but the side effects are way less, I don’t wake up on the morning or the middle of the night feeling like I need a kratom asap cause withdrawals are starting. I am not constipated. My libido is higher . I look healthier.
So all these years basically I didn’t really need to be up there on those higher doses to benefit from kratom but I didn’t know it.
Anyway just wanted to share my experience, the less is more saying appears to be true for me.
Everyone is different obviously but I would encourage people taking higher doses to play around with it a little, but keep in mind it will take you a couple weeks to adjust before you should judge the results.
TLDR
I have found taking 6 grams per day to be just a beneficial as taking 16 grams per day and it comes with less side effects like constipation, lower libido, cravings etc. but it took two weeks at the lower dose for me to realize it.
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My day in the life with taking Kratom.
Hola! I'm 54, been taking Kratom for 6 months. I see posts about how it effects people differently. This is my day in the life of taking Kratom and how I keep it effective throughout the day.
I drink black coffee from 6a-7:30a. I know it tastes like crap, but i feel the caffeine. I then eat breakfast or at least get something in my stomach. At 9am, I take 1 square of chocolate 25mg mitragynine isolate with(caffeine & ginseng) and 1 gummy 30mg mitragynine isolate. I usually feel it kicking in around 9:30a. My aches and pains, (from working out), go away, my focus is laser sharp and my energy is through the roof.
When I start to feel the Kratom losing it's effect, around 12:30pm or so, I eat something. This seems to reactivate the Kratom and I feel like a million bucks again.
Around 4:30-5pm, I feel it wearing off. I do not take any more for the day, just in the morning.
Let me add... before taking Kratom, I was not on any prescription meds, never took an illegal drug in my life. I was drinking a red bull in the afternoons, but stopped as soon as I found Kratom.
I know everyone is different and it affects everyone differently.
Have a great day!
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Mitragyna hirsuta during breaks?
I am a happy kratom user who is trying to find my sweet spot of sustainable use with only positive effects from it. I do this pretty cautiously as I got a good scare from my first break after using too large doses for too long without taking breaks to check myself for habit-forming and while I did manage to take a long break the withdrawals were the worst experience of my life. 🤣 I have since then been on a lower GPD and taken small breaks here and there to make sure I’m not too dependent on it.
Now I have used for a bit longer and tapered down to my current break and am on my third day. The taper seems to have gone well and I feel no real ill effects at all, no anhedonia or lack of energy. It’s just the mental urge for that little pick-me-up, it’s always there. When I get anxious I sometimes use kava to great effect but it’s a bit expensive and the preparation is not super fun. I have used a bit of hirsuta as a comforter during the taper and understand it contains some of the same but not the main alkaloids as kratom does. Would you say it is safe to simply replace kratom with hirsuta during a break or would that ruin some of the tolerance reset and dependence reset? I am determined enough to adjust my regimen if necessary but also quite prone to developing dependence so I’m just trying to find my sustainable way of using my tools as I like to call them without side effects.
My normal GPD is about 6-8, doses are 1.5-2 grams.
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Online kratom
Hello everyone, i've been using Kratom for about two years now and I just learned that the brand I was buying from my head shop had a good amount of 7-OH in it, so l bought from a online vendor, I bought the capsules of green maeng da, and they gave me a bag of super green for free. It came in one day even though I picked the cheapest shipping which is awesome. But I go to look at the ingredients and there's 0.1 mg of 7-oh per gram... is this normal?? I bought from a vendor to get away from 7-OH.
I'm not spreading any hate or anything, even though I take kratom im not too familiar with it.
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