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Kratom’s affect on athletics

I’ve seen everywhere that it aids workouts as well as workout recovery.

I have also seen that it may lower testosterone. This obviously is bad to athletic performance.

What is the consensus? Is it positive or negative to athletic performance, and overall improvement to things like muscle gain, cardio, sport IQ, etc…



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Is it safe to take tramodol a day after taking 2.5 grams of kratom for a week straight

I’ve been taking kratom all week but would like to take maybe 200 mgs of tramodol today but I had my last dose of kratom at 3 pm yesterday and I know it has a really long half life and both kratom and trams can lower seizure threshold. Any thoughts?

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Dealing with come down

Hey there friends, did some searching on the sub about come downs and it seems a lot of other folks experience the same irritability and general uneasiness coming down after a dose. I was curious if anyone have any tips for mitigating it so you dont just dose again. Caffeine? Opposite and go iwith some herbal tea or something? lol just looking for some help, i become a grouchy grump

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Kratom once every other day for 3 weeks?

Im on vacation in spain for 3 weeks where it is legal, at home in Norway it is illegal and impossible to find. Can I in this period use it every other day without getting addicted? Or does addiction/withdrawals come on quickly?

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Please share your experience and tips for flying with kratom.

Im flying from Oregon to Phoenix where it's legal in both states and no restrictions. Anything i need to worry about or consider? I only need to bring a small amount as I'll be gone for 2 nights. Thanks.

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Kratom Ban proposed in Washington State by Department of Health

Washington State has a new kratom ban proposed. Join advocacy webinar tonight at 8:30pm ET for details and how to help fight backRegistration link has been emailed out or is at at protectkratom.org

"Subject of Possible Rule Making: Considering adding kratom to the

list of Schedule I substances. The pharmacy quality assurance commis-

sion (commission) is considering amending WAC 246-945-051 and adding

new sections to chapter 246-945 WAC to add kratom and its active com-

pounds to the list of Schedule I substances in response to a petition

request to do so."



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AKA Advocacy Update Webinar Wednesday: Please Upvote

The AKA legislative team is hosting a Kratom Advocacy update webinar this Wednesday September 18th at 8:30pm. Registration links have been emailed out or can be found on the home page of Protectkratom.org

Topics to be covered-

Updates on state and local bans, impact on consumers of Indonesia's newly proposed regulation of kratom
Recent FDA and Congressional attacks on kratom (esp. recent Congressional hearing where FL Congresswoman went after kratom and said it should all be removed from shelves)
Why the AKA is against the California kratom regulation bill and overregulation in all states
A couple of big announcements from the AKA

Also a reminder the AKA is forming a special Veterans Advocacy group all veterans are encouraged to join https://www.protectkratom.org/veterans

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straight up 0 effects?

i’ve been taking kratom here and there for months, twice per week probably, and i randomly just got no effects with my dose today. there’s sometimes variation in the sensations i get but never just nothing. what causes this and how can i avoid it happening? i didn’t eat before taking it too.

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Kratom suddenly causing horrendous BO?

I've been taking kratom on and off since 2008 in every kind of configuration. In the last few years, I had been taking it daily for the most part, up to 15 or so gpd. Practically no issues.

A few years ago, I started drinking pretty large quantities of alcohol along with the daily kratom and eventually developped a very strange body odor that fits to a T the description of fetor hepaticus. This is the stench that people get when their liver is failing. I eventually stopped drinking alcohol (but stayed on the kratom) and it went away. All good.


Now fast forward to a few weeks ago and I started taking kratom again (after a several month break) at a relatively low dosage (around 9gpd) and quickly developped the exact same body odor as when I was drinking only way, way worse this time. Mind you, I now don't drink alcohol and have not for months. Noticing the smell, I cut the kratom dosage down even lower (about 3gpd) and it actually kept getting worse, seemingly daily.

This is not regular body odor. The smell is extremely intense and it smells on every part of my body as soon as it starts sweating. It stays in the clothes and doesn't go away even after washing them numerous times. No amount of soaps or deodorant or essential oils covers it up or makes it go away. The moment I step out of the shower I start to reek the moment I sweat to any degree. It does NOT smell like regular BO, but more like a sickingly sweet, musty and pungeant smell. I can also 100% taste it in my saliva as it feels like the same change has occured there. It matches exactly the description of fetor hepaticus but I have nothing to reference it with.

No other changes in my diet except the kratom when this issue came about. Ironically I also take (and have for years) a few liver support supplements (livercare, nac, etc.) but discontinuing them made no difference either.

I consulted a doctor (or rather a nurse as they did not consider my case to be serious I guess) and she confirmed she could smell it on me and that it was a strong smell but pretty much entirely dismissed my concerns that it may be a liver issue as my labwork from a few weeks ago (around when it all started) was normal (although I was taking all of my liver support supplements at the time of blood draw so maybe the result is not accurate) and that I did not have any other symptoms except much more fatigue than usual. I insisted that it may be a late onset of hepatitis or some other issue of the liver and asked at least for a hepatitis blood test or scan of the liver as I had quite a few issues with this organ in previous years including pain during the times I was drinking. She again dismissed this. She said she would talk with a doctor and get back to me as there "might be some kind of soap" that could help. I tried again to get her to understand that I tried all kinds of soaps and they make absolutely no difference and it is beyond what any kind of cleaning item can help with. I don't get it because all I would need is simply an experienced doctor who is familiar with the smell of liver or kidney failure to say if it is the same or not. The nurse had no experience with this. She will give me an update by phone later next week and thats it.

Today is my first day off of the kratom to see if it is indeed causing this issue. I am incredibly sad because it has been a lifesaver for me all these years when nothing else worked and it had caused me practically no issues. Actually, I am at a point in my life where I need it now more than ever. However, I cannot overemphasize how bad and intense this odor is and it is putting me at risk of losing my job and housing so I have no choice. However the strange thing is why would it suddenly do this after so many years without issues? There have been no changes in variables. I did a search and this seems to be uncommon with kratom except potentially when coming off of it so I am at a loss. What do you guys think?

Update: I went off kratom for 3 days and the smell dimished to some degree but did not go away,

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Kratom gives me more social anxiety

Im curious if I'm the only one...
I always read about kratom being a good help for social anxiety and is a good social lubricant.

But for me it's the opposite. When I take kratom I feel really nice but for me it's a loner thing. Even when I took it and met with close friends I get such a quiet and weak voice and can't laugh for whatever reason. Things I usually would find funny, don't even give me a little smile. And I just look confused and dumb when someone makes a joke.


Tbh I only tried one supplier yet, maybe another one will give me better results but I don't think so...

Anyone else is like this?

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How to reverse/treat overdose?

I took way too much kratom and now I'm sweating a lot, very bad nausea, and I feel like I'm going to pass out.

I made myself throw up but I don't think any of the kratom came out, it must've already got past my stomach. I'm trying to drink a lot of water and I think that's helping, also I took a hot shower to hopefully sweat it out more.

Is there anything else I can do? If I got to wait it out how long will this last? I feel like absolute dog shit, I know it probably can't kill you but I'm scared I'll pass out and stop breathing or something

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Any other herbs/supplements that look like red strain kratom? I’d like to keep some red powder in a different container that would look legit

I thought about keeping it in a matcha tea jug, but that seems a bit too bright green. Any other herbs/supplements that would make it blend in as something else?

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I just took 160mg of 7-Hydroxymitragynine. Ask me anything!



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Dose of a kratom extract for someone with a tolerance?

So i just got a freebie liquid kratom extract, it has 250mgs of kratom extract and 112.5mgs of mitragynine, claims to be 3 servings but i also have a tolerance, for reference i take about 15gs a day on average. What would be a decent dose for a first time extract user with a tolerance? Should i stick with one third of the bottle, half, whole bottle?

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Injesting Kratom before a flight

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How common is this?

How many others were sustainably using kratom for years, then tried 7oh and got instantly addicted for weeks, and then pushed through terrible withdrawals to get back to only taking standard kratom? I feel like this is an archetypal story for this moment in the kratom industry. Let me know if anyone else had a similar experience.

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Small doses have been life-changing

Years ago I used to take a lot of kratom at a time but the effects weren't as mentally tangible because I just liked partying a lot anyways so I was often stoned or on something else. But recently just for work I take a couple doses of 0.2 and sometimes 0.5 grams throughout my work day never taking more than two grams a day.

Keeping my tolerance low and using it just for work has truly done wonders for me managing athletic injuries and anxiety. Taking any more than this can just overall ruin the effect over time because of tolerance.

Just taking some all doses medically is a lot more efficient and I definitely recommend starters or people who don't want to be any form of intoxicated should just be taking these "microdoses ". Most of the time I never exceed a gram. The small effects that kratom give me truly enhance my day.

Why am I posting this? I just want to get it out to people that just need some medicine in their life. This form of usage makes me More of a supporter than I've ever been and I was already a supporter.


On a side note if anyone is wondering I'm just dealing with athletic fatigue and very sore joints.

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People who started taking kratom to help them stop taking other drugs (including pills), did it work? How are you doing now?



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If I were to be pulled over, what would be the appropriate response to “what’s in that bottle?”

I live in NY and I’ve always wondered, if I were to be pulled over with a bottle of Kratom, is telling an officer it’s Kratom a safe response or should that be avoided?

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Mike Lawler NY

Hi all,

Hope you’re doing well! With election season upon us I wanted to know if anyone can support Mike Lawler’s support for a NY KCPA and a greater Federal KCPA. I feel like I read it on this subreddit but can’t find that information anywhere else. Can anyone chime in here about his support?

Thank you!

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When I chase my Kratom with coffee (toss and wash) it tastes like I just drank tea .Is that strange?I gotta know if it’s only me



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Could 70H work?

Regular kratom powder no longer works for me. What do you think, could 70H still have an effect?

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unfortunately. I had to go back on kratom because I simply can't function without it at this point in my life.

The other variable may be that I am using a brand that is not the usual one that I use that may not be of the best quality. But how the heck do I account for never having any kind of issues for so many years and now this all of a sudden?

Also, I did carnivore diet for a few days to see if it made any difference and it didn't. Chlorophyll doesn't help either. I will try molybdenum and manganese next to see if its some kind of sulphur processing issue. What do you guys think? Update: molybdenum has no positive effect either. Nothing's working and I am feeling hopeless. This has kicked my already severe depression up yet another notch. Doctors are simply not taking me seriously.. This entire experience has been deeply traumatizing as I can't overemphasize how incredibly strong the stench is and how quickly it comes on right after I shower. I smell it on me constantly and I taste it always in my saliva. I just don't know how I am going to endure yet another day at work like this. Please, any help would be appreciated.

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If I'm seeing a sports medicine doctor tomorrow to let him do x-rays on my back, should I avoid kratom & ibuprofen, like I've been taking daily this month?

My low-back & Si-joint pain without ibuprofen & kratom each morning is about a 6, sometimes 7 or 8. But with ibuprofen & kratom, it's only a 1 or 2.

He's a sports medicine physician, is he likely to do a physical examination and say things like "does it hurt when I press here?"

If so, I should probably not take anything tomorrow morning that deadens pain, otherwise it will interfere with the medical appointment tomorrow afternoon, right? I plan to take 2 pills with me and take them immediately after the appointment is over, but I've never been to an actual back pain doctor before, so I mainly want to know what my first visit will entail.

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Horrible tasting Gold shots lately

Possibly already discussed but anyone else experiencing this. They were awful to begin with but became an acquired taste but holy heck the last few I’ve bought are gross.

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Weakness in the morning without kratom

I take 10-12 gpd and have my first cup soon after getting up. Recently I started trying to limit my consumption and skip the morning dose.

However, I feel really weak just walking around, even just going up the staircase makes me exhausted. I have breakfast, have coffee, but still feel weak up until 2-3pm when I have my first cup of the day.

Has anyone experienced that? Any advice?

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Automoderartor flagging language about v3ndors/br4nds when just posting or replying and mentioning kratom alkal0ids and specific pharmacology. What's up with this?

Does anyone else run into this issue? I am a scientist, specifically I study neuropharmacology and ethnopharmacology, so I post a lot about the chemical composition of Kratom and the pharmacodynamic mechanisms of indole and oxindole alkaloi1ds and constantly have posts deleted by the automod for violating prohibitions on mentioning v3ndors and br4nds despite never mentioning any sources for kratom. What is the automod flagging?

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Controversial, but just looking for information. Can someone give me a rough comparison/equivalency of milligrams of 7OHM to commonly prescribed opiates?

I know the forums general take on extracts, especially 'pure' 7OHM. I've only ever done the leaf before, but I want to try 7OHM extract and am looking for harm reduction information. The packaging says a dose of 7OHM is 14 mg. Can anyone who has tried 7OHM and knows the dosage they took and compare it to common opiates like mg hydro or oxy? Like 14mg 7OHM is the rough equivalency to 10 mg of oxycodone, something to that. Once again, not trying to get embroiled in the whole extracts will cause regulation, just want to know how cautious I should be before trying this tablet.

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Do you think High Potency Kratom is a Danger to Keeping Kratom Legal?

I wonder if these brands that keep coming out with high potency products will run the Kratom Industry for all of us.

I do not want this beautiful plant to go anywhere. I hope we see some standards that always keep the plant safe.

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Kratom quick (shot) or long (sipping) dosing question

So when I take the Kratom shots I do a shot every two to 4 hours but lately I’ve been using the powder mixed into iced tea and I sip it throughout the day

Would I be better to just finish it in one big sip and then do the same another few hours or is sipping it ok as well

Any differences?

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