Kratom and Pu’erh tea combo
I tried Kratom for the first time yesterday (White Vein Mengda) and had it again this morning as a study aid with puerh tea (gongfu tea is a big hobby for me) for a 3000 word paper that is due today at 3. Oh. My. God. This, combine with the caffeine and Qi from Puerh tea is really good for alleviating stress but also making me more able to get things done and map out the grand scheme of the paper. It’s the ultimate study combo. I’m a lightweight (5’9”, 165lbs, 21MTF) but abnormally so for someone my weight and age, so somewhere between 0.5-2g is enough to keep me energized. I went to 2.5g and it’s way too sedating to study on but feels nice minus the headache. Makes intimidating tasks more calm and approachable. I just hope I don’t get addicted or dependent to this stuff. I wanna start a discussion about this as a study aid but I also want advice on moderation.
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I was given several small bags of kratom, already opened but still alot left. The dates say 4.16.22 on the bags. Is this still good to use?
This is a friend who bought them, who tried it and didn't like it. But they kept the unused portions in bags in a drawer for years. I am just worried that it may have degraded or might not be good to use. I make tea out of the powder. The bags given to me are the fine powder. Should I throw away?
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Seizures.
It seems seizures can happen from heavy long term exposure especially to the extract. If I use in moderation what are my chances of developing seizures myself?
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Some wins for kratom — ban attempts that failed thanks to community pressure + the AKA 💪
We always sound the alarm when bans are introduced — and we should. But I wanted to post something positive: here are major kratom bans that were BLOCKED, and examples of the AKA + kratom users showing up and making a difference.
⚠️ I used ChatGPT to help organize this. I included sources, but fact-check if needed. Add more if I missed anything!
# 💥 1. DEA Emergency Scheduling Attempt (2016)
The DEA tried to place kratom in Schedule I overnight.
In response, 100k+ signed petitions, 23,000+ public comments, and scientists, veterans, lawmakers spoke out.
The DEA withdrew the scheduling — an almost unheard-of move. ✅ A historic win. 📎 [Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/10/12/the-dea-is-withdrawing-its-ban-on-kratom-for-now/) | [Federal Register](https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/10/13/2016-24659/withdrawal-of-notice-of-intent-to-temporarily-place-mitragynine-and-7-hydroxymitragynine-into)
# 🌴 2. Florida
Ban bills proposed for years.
Instead, in 2023, passed the Kratom Consumer Protection Act (KCPA) — regulating age limits, labeling, etc.
Community showed up in person at hearings and online. ✅ From banning to regulating. 📎 FL HB179 (2023)
# 🌽 3. Illinois
Ban attempts in 2022–23.
The AKA met with lawmakers and helped pass a KCPA-style bill instead. ✅ Ban blocked, regulation passed. 📎 HB5526
# 🧪 4. Colorado
Health officials raised concerns in 2022.
Instead of banning it, the state collaborated with the AKA on consumer protections. ✅ Now has one of the strongest KCPA laws in the country. 📎 SB22-120
# 🦑 5. Rhode Island
Banned kratom in 2017.
After years of testimony and pressure, the ban was reversed in 2023. ✅ Fully legal again under regulation. 📎 H5330 (2023)
# 🐊 6. Mississippi
30+ counties have banned it locally.
But every statewide ban has failed — year after year — thanks to intense advocacy.
The AKA is now pushing a Mississippi KCPA to override local bans. ✅ Still legal statewide. 📎 [Mississippi Today](https://mississippitoday.org/2023/01/23/kratom-mississippi-ban-2023/)
# 🗽 7. New York
Multiple attempts to ban kratom since 2017.
All failed. Lawmakers now discussing a regulatory framework. ✅ Regulation over prohibition. 📎 [S1668 (2021)](https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/s1668)
# 📢 More examples of the community/AKA showing up:
Virginia (2023): The AKA helped pass a KCPA law after addressing safety concerns from lawmakers. 📎 SB1108 (2023)
Oregon (2021): Kratom was at risk after a death was linked to adulterated product. Instead of banning, the state worked with the AKA to pass regulations. 📎 [HB4010 (2021)](https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/2021R1/Measures/Overview/HB4010)
Nevada (2019): First state to pass a KCPA bill, thanks to community action + AKA support. 📎 SB418 (2019)
Whether you’re all-in with the AKA or just a kratom user who wants to keep it legal — these wins happened because people showed up, made calls, testified, and spread the word.
If you know of other states or local wins, please drop them below 👇
Let’s keep the momentum going 💚
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Kratom and Percocet
I’m aware of the receptors and how it may not be effective to take these together. But, if you will humor me, if someone did take 2.5g Kratom and like 10mg Percocet, as these are both small doses, do you think in your opinion that they would be safe in doing so?
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Texas Senate Bill 1868
Hey, so texas is yet again flexing its hatred for its people by effectively trying to outlaw kratom (and thc products). If anyone is from Texas, we are down to the wire on the vote! Call your state senators and ask them to oppose or to remove kratom from the bill! It technically allows kratom in alkaloid content less than .1%, which means even plain leaf will be effectively outlawed.
This link will give you a list of your state senators in Texas, and if you put in your address, it will connect you with the office of your specific senator. It did connect me directly with their office and I spoke to a staffer, so have your speech ready if you're a weirdo like me that needs to rehearse before you talk haha. They were very nice. Let's fight guys! So many lives, including mine, will suffer greatly from this if it passes in its current form.
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Using occasionally after quitting
I searched the forum but didn't find an answer.
If someone has taken kratom for years, then quit and made it through withdrawal. Can they use it occasionally again after a couple of months without risking addiction/withdrawal?
What's your experiences?
The only other physical addiction I've experienced is nicotine. And ime it gets risky terribly fast if you smoke a cigarette again after you've quit.
I'll appreciate all answers.
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On Earth Day, let’s not forget how kratom can actually help the environment
Most people know kratom for how it helps with pain, anxiety, energy, etc. But what a lot of folks don’t realize is that kratom can actually be good for the environment — especially compared to other cash crops.
Kratom grows best in shaded, biodiverse environments — it loves the forest. That means farmers don’t have to clear-cut land like they do for palm oil or rubber. In fact, in some parts of Southeast Asia, kratom farming is helping keep rainforests intact, because the trees are more valuable alive than cut down.
Some quick reasons why that matters:
• Preserves rainforest ecosystems
• Supports farmers without destroying land
• Doesn’t need heavy pesticides or fertilizers
• Can be grown in agroforestry systems (basically, mixed farming that mimics a natural forest)
Obviously, if demand keeps rising and big players get involved, there’s always a risk of it becoming less sustainable. But right now, kratom is one of the few crops that has the potential to support both people and the planet — if we do it right.
So yeah, just something to think about today. If you’re using kratom, you’re not just helping yourself — you might also be supporting a greener kind of farming, too.
Happy Earth Day!
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Is my Kratom shit Quality?
Hey Guys so last weekend i tried Kratom for the first time also never took any opioid before. I heard a good starter dose would be 2 grams so i took it and waited like 45 minutes and felt nothing so i redosed another 2g and from that every 30 Minuten redosed 2g until i was at 10g where i felt a little bit. In the end i was at 14g and then felt nausea and later got hiccup. All in all i have to say it was relaxing and a little bit euphoric but i expected more also felt a little wierd like daydreaming but not really.
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Replace
What antidepressant drug can I take to replace kratom. I tapered dow from 40gpd and extractss down to 5-10gpd and just caffeine. Without it I am extremely apathetic and depressed. I was depressed before I started using kratom. I stopped the weed and alcohol. I eat health. Exercise. Hike. Take some supplements like BCAAs/EAAs and I am just miserable and depressed. Life is so fucking boring I have no interest in anything no drive no wants. 32M I really just want to live the next 30 years of my life wanted to do something and meet new people. Lost a girl I loved and wanted to start a family with and now I am stuck again. Need drug recommendations I have tried all the therapy, yoga, exercise all that shit don’t work for me because it doesn’t change the reality of life we live in. I need something to actually change my mood for the better.
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I am a weakling
Title. I am a pussy.
Popped 3g of kratom yesterday around this time since after looking around, it seemed to be a good “beginner” dose. After 10 or so minutes I was feeling alright, but it kept getting stronger and stronger until I was violently sweating and retching, I couldn’t think, vision was going everywhere, and fucked up in general. I drank so many gatorades and liquid IVs during and even slept for a few hours but it didnt do shit. It’s been a full 24 hours later and it’s significantly better but I still feel like shit.
Am I just absurdly sensitive to kratom?
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Caffeine + Kratom
Not sure if this is well know but I took some Kratom down with dark roast coffee. And it felt like the first time. Impressed enough to write a post. For awhile, been taking it with just plain water and tolerance took a hit. But it felt like a reset with the caffeine. Thought i'd share my experience. Bye!
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Do you guys strain your kratum? How?
I find the sendiment to he harsh on my stomach and have had no such problems since beggining to strain the mucky part out. Problem is, I used to strain my kratum through a coffee filter and it worked fine, but this new batch I have is really fine and it doesn't work. I've tried french press, mesh strainers, tea steepers to no luck. I tried boiling the kratum in several mini paper tea bags but it was too packed in there I think and ended up with a really weak batch. At this point I am just waiting for the kratum to settle and then pouring into a seperate cup and throwing out the sedimant at the bottom, but its time dependant and feels like a waste. Any ideas?
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Kratom Tea vs Kratom powder shaken w/water potency
Is there any difference in potency between if you boil Kratom powder in water for 20-30 minutes, then filter out the sludge versus just shaking the same amount of Kratom powder with water?
Additionally, if you were to mix powder and water and let sit over night, then only ingest the clear liquid, avoiding the sludge on the bottom, would that be just as effective as drinking it with the sludge?
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Does Kratom act as an antagonist to receptors?
I suffered a bad injury almost two weeks ago. The doctors barely wanted to give me any pain pills that would actually help. I chose to take these for about a week and I suffered greatly. I took some kratom I had about 8 hours ago. It helped but now I need to take my prescribed opiate. Will the kratom or does it act as a receptor antagonist? Or will taking the prescribed pain pills help?
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Kratom Hyerkalemia and LDL
I have used kratom on and off for the last 3 years. For the last year, I have let it get totally out of control - daily use of 450 mitra extract shots. For the last 3-4 months, it's been heavy use of 7-OH tabs - 3-4 full 80mg 4 packs per week. Had bloodwork done 2 years ago, perfectly healthy. Bloodwork done again 3 weeks ago, and my potassium is at 6.0 and LDL in the 200s. Needless to say I'm back to leaf capsules and tapering down to a quit. I just want all to be aware, as I'm sure many of you are, that the extracts are bad news without being careful. I go to the doc on Friday to talk about these bloods.
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Poop and alcohol related question
Ok… sorry in advance for the graphic post:) for the last decade I’ve been a daily user of Kratom, while also drinking alcohol daily. Poops during that time have always been inconsistent and soft.
Since giving up alcohol this year, poops have been huge and consistently hard.
My consumption of kratom did increase since giving up alcohol.
My question is….is the exclusion of alcohol the reason for the stool change or is it the increase in Kratom daily?
I’d say that while drinking I was probably around 10gpd. Now I’m around 20gpd.
Thanks
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Why?
Been using kratom for 3 months. I use the premade capsules mitragynine 1200mg. I haven't figured out the grams but as far as I can tell the consensus is each capsule is .5g. So anyway, lately about 4 hours after my 8 morning capsules I get a headache, nausea, just don't feel good. Anybody with any thoughts?
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Interesting finding, want to see if it's universal
I have found if I drink a couple Polar brand grapefruit Seltzer after eating a few tablespoons of kratom (I prefer white maeng da powder) I get a really distinct and pleasant sensation in my head and chest. I don't get this particular sensation with just kratom, and I feel like the seltzer strongly potentiates the kratom. I've had this effect with some other kinds of seltzer, but not others, and it's strongest with Polar brand grapefruit flavor.
Is anyone here willing to try this with powdered kratom and report back if you felt stronger results then just kratom? I want to know if it's just me or if I'm on to something.
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Florida petition to keep bans at bay
https://www.protectkratom.org/florida
We all need to be proactive in the next few years. This is a petition to show legislatures that we all want to not have any bans in FL. If you have anyone in other states that are concerned…join the AKA
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Vyvance/Kratom
I was recently prescribed vyvance, and I also take kratom at low doses for anxiety/pain (~4g in pill form with breakfast trainwreck strain) I haven’t had Kratom in about a month as I cycle it to avoid withdrawal ( have never had any been using for about 2 years cycle a month on few weeks off or few months off just when my anxiety gets bad, have also never at all felt addicted to it can stop whenever in this period I went 3 months without to test the water and see if I was addicted and felt no temptation to take again) currently just started vyvance today and would like to know how they interact if anyone takes both together.
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Take your AirPods out before taking any kratom lol 🤣
So tonight I’m listening to my audiobook (Bloodmarked by Tracy Deonn if anyone’s curious what book was good enough for me to be stupid and not take my AirPods out) and I could feel some anxiety creeping up and decided to go take a small amount of kratom really fast.
Throw it back and shake my head a little, and my airpod goes flying……….. into the bag of kratom. 🙃
It somehow lodged itself DEEP in the bag and I was PANICKING lol. My husband would have lost his ever loving mind since this is the second pair he’s bought me.
I did get it out finally, though it made a huge mess, cleaned it up but the sound was awful. So I got deep in there and made 1000000% sure they were clean. Sound is perfect now and I will absolutely be taking my AirPods out next time.
I’m laughing at myself now but dang that was a bit scary for a minute lol. I thought they were done for for sure.
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What's with the sudden spate of kratom horror stories?
3g had you violently wretching and feeling like shit 24 hours later. Every day I'm seeing similar stories in my feed. I'm calling BULLSHIT, feels manufactured.
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Kratom Online
Hey everyone, has anyone had experience with ordering kratom online? I haven't tried yet, but I have found a website that sells it online and it's so much cheaper than in stores and shops. Just curious if anyone has tried this and how it went. Thanks!
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Wegovy - Kratom doesn’t work anymore
Just like the subject says. Started on weight loss medication Wegovy and now my Kratom has no affect. I think it has to do with the slower absorption of food through the stomach maybe?! So sad. Anyone find a way to combat this?
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I don't know what bill he's talking about, but everything he's saying we could apply to pure leaf kratom as a part of the solution. 1.3M views · 2.5K comments | Music Icon Jelly Roll Makes Stunning Confession during Heartfelt Senate Testimony | This was powerful! 🤯 | By Trending Politics | Face
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Shattered ankle, pain relief strains
Curious to hear personal experiences. My doc wants to put me on opiates, I cannot go back down that road. Going in for surgery, at least 3 bones are crushed and need to be replaced and screwed in and all that jazz. I have been using some red Bali and some old super white for the pain. What has worked best for YOU?
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LOUISIANA KRATOM LEGISLATION (2018–2025): Seven (7) Years of Political Paralysis - By Sixteen (16) Legislators, Three (3) Resolutions for LDH Studies, Three (3) KCPAs, Three (3) Ban Bills, One Trigger Bill, and Zero Accountability.
|Date|Bill / Instrument|Sponsor(s)|Purpose / Content|Status / Outcome|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|2018|**HR177**|REP HOFFMANN, REP LEBAS|Ordered LDH to study kratom for possible scheduling|❌ No study produced|
|2019|**HR203**|REP JAMES|Requested LDH study on kratom adulteration, toxicity, and public safety|✅ **Report delivered** (Feb 2020), then ignored|
|2019|**HB452 / Act 231**|REP TURNER|Trigger law: kratom auto-scheduled only if DEA does so first|✅ Enacted (dormant unless DEA acts)|
|2020|**HB523**|REP MINCEY, REP WHEAT|KCPA First full 21+ age limit, 2% 7-OH cap, LDH oversight, COAs required|❌ Died in process|
|2023|**SR96**|SEN MIZELL|Ordered LDH to study adverse events related to kratom, hemp, and cannabis|❌ No study returned by 2025|
|2023|**HB572**|REP GOUDEAU|Early KCPA draft with Dept. of Ag as enforcer|🔁 Substituted by HB655|
|2023|**HB655**|REP GOUDEAU|Reengrossed KCPA: ATC & LDH authority, study feasibility, stripped penalties|❌ Sent to Senate committee, died|
|2023|**HB14**|REPS FIRMENT, EDMONSTON, GAROFALO|Full ban bill: repeals trigger law and schedules kratom as Schedule I|❌ Failed|
|2023|**SB94**|SEN KLEINPETER|Companion Schedule I ban (mirror of HB14)|❌ Failed|
|2025|**SB154**|SEN MORRIS, REP SCHLEGEL, REP VILLIO|Adds to Schedule I, felony-level penalties for distribution/possession|⏳ Pending (Effective 8/1/25 if passed)|
|2025|**HB253**|REP BOYER|Tight KCPA: LDH registration, synthetic/solvent/7-OH limits, COAs, adverse event reporting|⏳ Pending|
In spite of all the propaganda and fearmongering, kratom is still legal in most of the U.S. and unregulated federally. That kind of thing doesn’t happen by accident NEITHER DOES THE MESS YOU SEE IN THAT CHART— it happens when the evidence doesn’t justify the prohibition.
DON’T LET MISINFORMATION WIN. SPEAK UP BEFORE THEY TAKE IT AWAY.
# SUPPORT HB253 — KILL SB154
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Protect Kratom in Texas
Protect Kratom in Texas!
Share Your Story to Help Texas
Your voice is urgently needed today. Senate Bill 1868 is rapidly advancing through the Texas Legislature, and if passed, it would severely limit access to kratom for responsible consumers across the state. This effective ban could set a dangerous precedent, potentially impacting other states as well.
We need to act now.
Please take a moment to call Texas State Senators today:
Ask them to oppose SB 1868.
Share your personal story about how kratom has positively impacted your life.
Be respectful and clear — your voice carries the most weight when it’s heard calmly and sincerely.
Reach out to as many offices as you can.
Encourage friends, family, and fellow advocates to call too. Spread the word on social media, in group chats, and anywhere else you can.
Take action now: Visit the Protect Kratom Texas page to share your story and tell Texas legislators to stand against criminalizing Kratom.
For phone numbers and more information, visit: ProtectKratom.org/texas
Responsible regulation is the answer, not prohibition. Your voice can make a difference!
Thank you for standing with us!
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Kratom extracts
Hi all,
Happy Easter and Passover to my fellow brethren! So against everyone’s advice, thinking I had more self control my tolerance now sucks with plain plant kratom and the extract tablets are doing their magic. So my question is: How do I reset my tolerance as I had when I first started dabbling with this wonderful plant. I’m open to ANY tapering down strategies. I want to go back to my 7-9gish a day leaf “toss and wash” rather than using the damn extracts to get the same effects. Thank you all!
Thanks again!
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