SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:20

we can't change companies if we just let them do whatever the fuck they want. if we don't push back, they'll just push their slop on us and there won't be any alternatives.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:19

the whole culture is like this

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:18

then go after the companies who create AI art generating services and voice your opinions. cuz doing it here on the ground floor isn't going to do anything.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:16

pick your battles. this one you're gonna lose.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:15

guns are also a tool, doesn't mean they aren't harmful

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:11

then stop acting like you're right about this. divest yourself from this discussion.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:11

and if you won't do that, stop trying to act like you're right. you're just simply not.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:10

you're caught up in your own head, stop headcasing about this so much, you're literally not reading/understanding things other people are saying about this. YOU ARE IN THE MINORITY THINKING AI SHIT IS OK, at least WITHIN THE FURRY COMMUNITY.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:09

you're the ones getting worked up about it.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:09

I mean, bonus points for the fact that you're ignoring that many of those artists are *also* present here, the fact that you're so caught up in this without realizing what you're actually saying... take a step back dude. take some time off, learn from other people for once in your life.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:07

AI art generators are not going to go away, so if you get sent into a tizzy every time you see it, that's your hang-up.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:06

doesn't mean i care.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:05

as a voice actor, ai is literally already becoming the death of an entire industry. you can't see that and say that ai "art" isn't doing the same.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:05

until we have ethical guidelines surrounding the use of ai in media production, it shouldn't fuckin touch it with a 10 foot pole.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:04

if you don't see that, then stop, look around you, and see things for what they are 👀

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:19

companies won't fuckin listen if people don't push back against it. if people tacitly accept it, that's what will make it inevitable. fight the good fight home slice. don't side with the people who are objectively incorrect just because you live on their cushy side of life instead of the down and dirty working class who need protections from this shit.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:18

I'm not disagreeing with you, but this is the sf bay furs chat

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:17

it's not that i can't handle seeing it, it's that i don't like people who are very clearly anti-working class, being pro-working class is my battle and that's one i'll keep fighting

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:16

tell you what though, if you're so much against AI art generation that you can't handle seeing it, the rest of your life is going to be very tough because its only getting more prevalent.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:11

as a mod, i have deemed this to be a dumb argument and it stops now.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:11

i don't care enough to do that.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:10

if you don't believe me, make a fuckin poll about it and see for yourself, real raw data

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:10

I'm confused... I'mma burn more forest. Too late to save it now, anways.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:09

i'm not caught up in anything.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:08

It's a tool, like everything else. Letting the tool take control and make it's own decisions, is the real issue. Shame the people building the tech that will become Sentient, and replace the need for people.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:06

if you don't like it, you can leave.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:05

doesn't mean people like it or want it

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:05

in Bay Area Furs, there is a no-AI rule because there are artists there selling their works. here there are no artists selling their works, so posting AI art here is allowed.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:04

If you've not made a living doing art as a service (I have for 30 years), my advice is to STFU.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:04

it's not about "tech shaming" or "gatekeeping" it's about the fact that multibillion dollar corporations are using it to cut JOBS out from PEOPLE instead of using ai to get PEOPLE out of MANUAL LABOR.