SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:42

It's a purely rational process

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:38

this is why stem track degrees need more humanities classes, that shit is important

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:34

genuine question spec, when was the last time you took a step back and got out of your own head?

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:33

*shrug* if you don't like it, there's the door.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:32

spec for once can you just hold your L and not try to justify your backwards viewpoint?

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:31

"oh but they're not here" DOES IT MATTER? NO

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:31

so what you're saying is it's only allowed here because there are less people who will get angry at you about it?

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:30

here's the bottom line. preventing people from posting AI-generated art on social media or harassing them is not going to stop the problem. it's not even going to make a dent, even from a cultural point of view.

now in Bay Area Furs, we have a no-AI rule specifically because actual artists advertise and promote their works there and we don't want to muddy the waters with a bunch of AI-generated art that takes attention away from them.

here in this group, we don't have artists who promote their works. so someone posting some silly little thing they created using AI isn't going to harm anyone as there are no direct victims.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:28

oh, your gpu? that company is pushing ai shit. your cpu? same dealio. want to do anything online? guess what, your isp is tracking you with, oh, yeah, ai shit.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:27

yeah, sure, i will try to never use a fucking google or microsoft product again, sounds really fuck manageable

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:27

they spend hundreds of millions of dollars to placate their employees with conventions designed to distract them from the fact that they're the ones CREATING THE HOMELESS PROBLEM in sf and other major cities around the world, then they turn around and COMPLAIN that people CAN'T AFFORD SHIT anymore when THEIR JOBS are taken from them

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:26

it's still so common that isn't really feasible, there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, shit like that has been shown to be ineffective

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:26

The more significant thing is that it's a systemic issue

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:24

nah that's not true.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:24

if AI art bothers you so much, then it would be more effective to not purchase anything from a company or organization who uses it. it's not effective to go after people who use it for throw-away things on social media.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:41

Humanities classes won't change anything when they materially benefit from it

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:35

(you don't have to answer that, just think about it)

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:34

I'm not here for ai shit, I'm here for cool folks and fun times. you know, socialization. kinda the whole point of a group chat? but I guess that whole concept is lost.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:33

if you won't do a poll to see the reality of the situation and the fact that MOST PEOPLE DON'T WANT AI SHIT... then just stop advocating the AI side of things.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:32

has nothing to do with people getting angry. i don't moderate my chats based on mob rule.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:31

and saying there are no direct victims is literally ignoring people whose homes have been literally destroyed by climate change WHICH AI IS MASSIVELY ACCELERATING 👀

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:30

I'm not saying to not have hopium that we can get to a place where ethical use is THE ONLY use, but I am saying that it should be IN NO WAY PROMOTED until we get to that point. if that's so hard to understand, perhaps invest in a dictionary 👀

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:29

so, any smartphone is out the window if you don't want to support ai, and even then, most of those companies make the dumbphones too so it's not like you're not gonna be giving them money in the long term

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:28

^ or apple or amazon or LITERALLY ANY TECH COMPANY...

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:27

if you don't understand what that means... please listen to what I'm trying to tell you.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:26

and i'd never let them promote anything here.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:26

side note, your argument here is that... corporations and the mega rich aren't the ones primarily pushing ai to people? dude... I literally work the tech conferences where they suck their own dicks about how much their ai shit is "so efficient" that they can afford to literally slash jobs for record profits.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:25

every corporation making at least a mil on the year is, and that's most of them

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:24

every fucking corporation is pushing ai shit what in the everloving fuck do you mean by that

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:23

and like sure your feelings are valid, but if they contradict the facts, maybe you should get over yourself 🤔