SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:26

it's still so common that isn't really feasible, there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, shit like that has been shown to be ineffective

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:26

The more significant thing is that it's a systemic issue

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:24

nah that's not true.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:24

if AI art bothers you so much, then it would be more effective to not purchase anything from a company or organization who uses it. it's not effective to go after people who use it for throw-away things on social media.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:23

well yeah, that's the culture of "facts don't matter, my feelings do"

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:23

Just as if someone was posting pro-Trump imagery

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:22

even with permission, it's still losing them work at the end of the day, which means they're losing pay, which means they won't be able to do things like eat or have housing since they can't afford it since OH LOOK no money in that anymore since it's all AI slop now and then the artists are forced into fuckin manual labor/mindless retail...

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:21

who's "people" in this?

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:21

yes people are being robbed. it requires the use of people's art without permission to train them

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:20

there's a difference between selling AI art and allowing AI art to be posted. no one is being robbed of anything because someone creates a silly meme using AI. i'd never allow anyone to actually sell or promote AI anything for money because that does directly rob actual artists.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:20

we can't change companies if we just let them do whatever the fuck they want. if we don't push back, they'll just push their slop on us and there won't be any alternatives.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:19

the whole culture is like this

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:18

then go after the companies who create AI art generating services and voice your opinions. cuz doing it here on the ground floor isn't going to do anything.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:16

pick your battles. this one you're gonna lose.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:15

guns are also a tool, doesn't mean they aren't harmful

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:26

side note, your argument here is that... corporations and the mega rich aren't the ones primarily pushing ai to people? dude... I literally work the tech conferences where they suck their own dicks about how much their ai shit is "so efficient" that they can afford to literally slash jobs for record profits.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:25

every corporation making at least a mil on the year is, and that's most of them

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:24

every fucking corporation is pushing ai shit what in the everloving fuck do you mean by that

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:23

and like sure your feelings are valid, but if they contradict the facts, maybe you should get over yourself 🤔

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:23

it doesn't matter who the specific artists is. that's such a destiny type debate lord question. the creators of the program say they need to use atist's art without permission to train their ai programs, what more do yo need

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:22

There's also a cultural aspect to it too

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:22

can you name specific artists?

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:21

what else would you call that

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:21

everyone TOO SMART to be kept stupid is either POOR or IN BAD HEALTH, and why do you think that is 🤔

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:20

companies are not your friend. billionaires are not your friend.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:19

companies won't fuckin listen if people don't push back against it. if people tacitly accept it, that's what will make it inevitable. fight the good fight home slice. don't side with the people who are objectively incorrect just because you live on their cushy side of life instead of the down and dirty working class who need protections from this shit.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:18

I'm not disagreeing with you, but this is the sf bay furs chat

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:17

it's not that i can't handle seeing it, it's that i don't like people who are very clearly anti-working class, being pro-working class is my battle and that's one i'll keep fighting

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:16

tell you what though, if you're so much against AI art generation that you can't handle seeing it, the rest of your life is going to be very tough because its only getting more prevalent.

SF Bay Furs

13 Dec 2024 22:11

as a mod, i have deemed this to be a dumb argument and it stops now.