Wasabi Wallet

15 Oct 2024 17:58

Also, Wasabi has a slightly different path for coinjoins (internal vs external).

Wasabi Wallet

15 Oct 2024 16:30

You cannot expect to see the same in Wasabi and Samourai because Samourai uses different derivation that Wasabi cannot find because they are used by Samourai only. They have premix, postmix, badbanks, and god knows what others so, before continuing messing with your money I would suggest you to move carefully your money spread across all those different boxes to different wallets and then, after you have it all in standard derivation paths , you will finally be able to see everything in Wasabi

Wasabi Wallet

15 Oct 2024 13:27

Now I see in the Wasabi docs that this derivation path is associated with BIP 86. Does it matter that the descriptor for this wallet is tr(BIP39)?

Wasabi Wallet

15 Oct 2024 13:14

(Balance is 0 with Taproot)

Wasabi Wallet

15 Oct 2024 12:12

The sum of those two opened in Sparrow will equal the balance in Wasabi Wallet

Wasabi Wallet

15 Oct 2024 10:34

I found more oddities in the transactions. Namely that in May and in the last few days (meaning each time I used the Wasabi app), in Sparrow I find that serious amounts were sent from that wallet. I do not see that in the Wasabi app. As if the app was hacked?? But I still have the deb and asc files and they are good. I downloaded from the official site and was aware of the fraudulous version... So it could just be random mistakes in the transaction list?

Wasabi Wallet

15 Oct 2024 09:57

Turns out I do miss a few thousand bucks... Here my findings:

- [ ] !!! Wallets in Sparrow after connecting correctly
- For reference: I hope to find the full amount I had on Samourai before importing to Wasabi last May. In Wasabi, I had about 75% of what was in Samourai.
- Below: attempts to import my wallet based on either Samourai or Wasabi compatibility.
- wallets with no passphrase used: no money (obviously)
- ex-wasabi taproot: 0 btc/transactions!
- m/86'/0'/0'
- BIP39
- ...and yet in the wasabi wallet app itself I can see and send transactions... Any other way to import that wallet to Sparrow?
- ex-samourai native segwit
- much smaller amount (50%) than in the wasabi app (75%)
- m/84'/0'/0'
- 30 transactions (2021-05 to 2024-10)
- ex-samourai with imported Samourai backup
- same amount as above (50%)
- m/84'/0'/0'
- 30 transactions
- (Should I try other old Samourai backups as well?)
- ex-samourai nested segwit
- 22 transactions
- ex-samourai legacy
- 3 transactions
- "brandnew" test wallet:
- 2 small test amounts from wasabi app arrived there (sparrow) - so I am able to send btc from wasabi... Phew\...
- In the Wasabi app, there are 30 transactions and 75% of the original amount in Samourai.
- Until a few days ago when I opened the Samourai app on my phone, it first showed the full amount (the 100% I am hoping to find), but just for a few seconds. After that, 0 BTC. The transaction list was there as well. Then I tested the passphrase by entering the wrong pin 3 times in purpose. After that it looked like a new empty wallet. No trace of any transactions or another balance, just 0 all the way.

Wasabi Wallet

15 Oct 2024 09:10

The "problem" is at sparrow side. Check if you're connected/synced, or ask for help at Sparrow chat

Wasabi Wallet

15 Oct 2024 02:21

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Wasabi Wallet

14 Oct 2024 21:22

Just wait for the confirmation. If you sent with Wasabi you can always bump the tx later, if the amount is big enough

Wasabi Wallet

14 Oct 2024 21:19

I can't really help you about samourai because I don't know the details either. Maybe ask help elsewhere... (Beware of scammers everywhere)

Wasabi Wallet

14 Oct 2024 21:13

(No trace of an amount arriving in the new wallet in Sparrow. Sent over 5 minutes ago, total estimated time should be 20min.)

Wasabi Wallet

14 Oct 2024 21:11

I will have to go to bed now, feeling really tired (and wary). I will continue this conversation, as this is about a very serious amount.

Wasabi Wallet

14 Oct 2024 21:05

It's possible to send 5k sats

Wasabi Wallet

14 Oct 2024 21:00

i can just try another transaction - more than 5000 Sats needed for a proper transaction?

Wasabi Wallet

15 Oct 2024 16:33

btw, I think samourai doesn't support taproot, what means that some coins resulting from coinjoins in Wasabi will not be seen in Samourai. Also, Wasabi doesn't support legacy scripts what means that all money sit in legacy scripts will not be discovered by Wasabi

Wasabi Wallet

15 Oct 2024 13:28

However, even if I manage to get the same contents in Sparrow as in the Wasabi, that is still 75% of the original amount in Samourai.

Wasabi Wallet

15 Oct 2024 13:20

m/86'/0'/0' is what I see in my wallet info for Taproot, in the Wasabi app

Wasabi Wallet

15 Oct 2024 13:13

In my notes above, I mentioned that I already tried Taproot with derivation path m/86'/0'/0' in Sparrow (BIP39). Should I use another derivation path?

Wasabi Wallet

15 Oct 2024 12:11

This is due to taproot address use in Wasabi Wallet, which you have to load as a seperate derivation path and address type in Sparrow

Wasabi Wallet

15 Oct 2024 10:21

As to the transactions, they're the same with Samourai backup file import, and with an import of the seed phrase without an app backup. But they have many differences with the transactions in the Wasabi app. (Though a majority of transactions are the same, and they both have 30 transactions.)

Wasabi Wallet

15 Oct 2024 09:21

I must be the stupidest Bitcoiner in the entire universe. Sparrow was simply not connected to the network. Give me a sec to analyze what all my different import attempts in Sparrow are showing now. (It turns out I didn't lose as many thousands of dollars I feared. Now I am not sure I didn't lose anything but I will check.)

Wasabi Wallet

15 Oct 2024 09:07

Next morning: 57 confirmations in Wasabi but no trace of any transaction at the receiving address in Sparrow wallet.

Wasabi Wallet

14 Oct 2024 23:12

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Wasabi Wallet

14 Oct 2024 21:21

You successfully sent with Wasabi?

Wasabi Wallet

14 Oct 2024 21:16

oops, no, 5 hours expected confirmation time

Wasabi Wallet

14 Oct 2024 21:11

Thanks a lot for your prompt and detailed replies.

Wasabi Wallet

14 Oct 2024 21:10

I tried recovering the Samourai wallet, importing it in different ways in Sparrow wallet but it always showed 0 balance and no transactions.

The seed phrase must be correct, I once restored Samourai wallet itself with that same sheet of paper years ago. The passphrase was in my password manager. (Now I have a vague memory that I wanted to get rid of the passphrase but am not sure it's even possible.)

So I can't see in what other ways I should recover the Samourai wallet. I used the default derivation path in Sparrow when importing: m/84'/0'/0'/0/0, with native segwit. The one in the Samourai official doc was m/44'|49'|84'/0'/0'.

Wasabi Wallet

14 Oct 2024 21:04

I suggest to first figure out how to recover you samourai funds. Then create a new wallet in Wasabi and use that, if you want to use Wasabi. Because Wasabi is "complex"/not a standard wallet by itself, importing a different kind of wallet is not recommended/supported. And you should assume your samourai xpub to be compromised, so you'd want a new one (new wallet)

Wasabi Wallet

14 Oct 2024 20:59

Yeah it's related to Tor, it can happen when your computer went to sleepmode while wasabi was still running