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I actually want to know, assuming I currently have 0.5 BTC in address A participating in a join, if I want to add another 0.5 BTC for a join, should I create a new address B, or should I send it directly to address A?

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Definitely. If you split your coins into two wallets and they mix with themselves, they each gain half the privacy progress. So it's self defeating to run multiple subwallets at once.

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But the coinjoin still works as intended, there's no bug there besides the display.

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Yeah, if you have over 0.1 BTC that parameter was slowing it down a lot. I hope it will be fixed next round.

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So is this all thanks to the modification of the MaxSuggestedAmountBase parameter?

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Does this mean that if I have 1 BTC, it is possible to achieve 100% in one round?

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This round is also max 0.10 which is fucking up even small whales. But hopefully it's good now.

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When will you consider reducing the duration of each round?

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Hmm... the maxsuggestedamount for this round in progress is also 0.1...

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it's a necessary evil

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You can't fake hashrate, but you can fake 1,000 coordinator nodes.

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makes sense! just wondering how CJ could be more redundant (decentralized) while still achieving optimal privacy.

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Yes, bigger rounds provide more privacy. It will be hard to match the performance of zkSNACKs since they were the default everyone used.

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Wasabi Wallet

I've selected @Kruwed 's coordinator. It's free.

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Wasabi Wallet

The outputs are "semi private" after the first round made in an empty wallet. You can spend them individually, but there's bad privacy if you combine them all back together. I wrote about the reasoning here: https://github.com/WalletWasabi/WalletWasabi/issues/10565

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In that case, if I'm pursuing speed, should I avoid constantly creating new wallets to join and instead continue sending my BTC to the old wallet?

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It's a display issue. If you change your anon score it will even display 0% lol: https://github.com/WalletWasabi/WalletWasabi/issues/11832

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Wasabi Wallet

After the first round, coins will remain in semi-private status. How does that translate to 75% exactly, idk.

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If you are starting from the first deposit to an empty wallet it is never possible to achieve 100% in one round, it will only get a maximum of 75%.

But if you have some private coins already, you can get back to 100% pretty quickly.

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Wasabi Wallet

the really big ones use custodial OTC anyways

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Ok, I found a config parameter called "MaxSuggestedAmountBase" that was set to 0.10, I changed it to 10.0 instead.

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Round duration will stay long, I don't think I would ever decrease it below 30 minutes. As liquidity builds up, my first priority is to increase the minimum input count until it's at least 200. Then I would try to increase the minimum UTXO size to 10k from 5k.

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Input size in that round did max out at 0.1 BTC: https://mempool.space/tx/b879d78c9de1c326795f2f4e4f7492cf7948701fa5963836e16b3a4713dea8f5

But, on the plus side, this means whales will end up together in the same round more often.

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Wasabi Wallet

@Kruwed i guess I wish you "live long and prosper" then 🖖

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New input count record is now 81: https://mempool.space/tx/f8f310b47900ab3241a52dae604ce485da60300ec4cdba7268372ba74dd53f5d

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Wasabi Wallet

Yeah... that's the tricky part. It's the same problem Bitcoin solves with Proof of Work.

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But, zkSNACKs also limited rounds to 400 inputs and triggered them every 10 minutes, so maybe even with a portion of the liquidity you could get better overall results by waiting an hour+ instead.

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Centralized = achilles heel
if we're talking greek already ;)

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A coordinator should be centralized in some context, I think

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