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There's nothing wrong with it.
thanks for the good advice

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russia, china, venezuela, (switzerland), monaco, liechtenstein

russia especially for cybercrime if russia itself is not part of the target group, and if western countries are targets it's most likely that the russian gov will support it

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have you ever heard of extradition treaties? and if you do something that is illegal in america, it is very likely that your local law enforcement will be looking for you, too.

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i dont think it would be a problem if putin of Xi see what are you doing - if you live outside of these countries


American FBI probably have the fullest info on me - but how that should concern me, if i dont live there? Its not like they will get me

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and this exception is the reason why a vpn can't be secure at all

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the problem already begins when you receive a court summons, vpn's are absolutely insecure, especially if we're talking about gov

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and if the gov wants your shit, they will get it and use it against you

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There's no problem even if it's sold, right?

In short, if you submit it to the government and it's not used as evidence in court, it's fine, right?
Mullvad VPN has never complied with a disclosure request from law enforcement authorities, so mullvad VPN is safe, right?

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Yeah nordvpn bad mullvad maybe ok best setup your own vpn in an esoteric country

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Instructions for my coordinator (with mostly weekly Sunday CoinJoins): https://coinjoin.nl

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How can I see the coordinator list?

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98% of all vpns log and would immediately hand out logs to the gov

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and won't improve privacy

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because the US got into the habit of jailing people who are working on privacy

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Isn't it better to use a VPN?

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but again, i'm talking about very extreme cybercrime especially

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Which country is the safest for extradition treaties?

Which country will never extradite you if you enter this country?

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yeah, if you don't do extreme shit mullvad is the best choice

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I haven't done anything that violates cia or fsb.

Does that mean it's okay?

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i use mullvad too, and it's the only valid option except you breach the cia, fsb or do some other extreme shit

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no way you actually believe what mullvad is saying

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there is a big problem if it's sold cuz i don't want xi ping ling, joe biden or putin to see what the fuck i'm doing

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it doesn't matter, literally every vpn logs and sells your data

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My ISP didn't even know what a ddos attack was

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/channel/WasabiWallet/84787

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in summary it's only useful for hiding your IP or bypassing regulations, although most well-known standard vpns only give you fewer options regarding e.g. visiting websites

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@swordoffaith thanks that is important to consider that in the big scheme of things VPNs are only useful to circumvent regulations. However if you zoom in it can get nuanced: One can think of a VPN like a replacement of ISP both in terms of security and privacy. So technically it is true that VPNs don't improve those, however VPNs tend to pinky promise privacy unlike ISPs so at least I'd give them an edge there but they tend to be more obscure companies than ISPs so I'd give the security edge to ISPs because of that.

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It's better for privacy, worse for security. Make sure to verify the signatures. (Which you should do anyway, but it's more important when VPN is used.)
Also for privacy the best is to use Tor.

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I always used a VPN to bypass it, no clue why they even did it in the first place lmao

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