Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:44

Does wasabi wallet support trx, ltc? Or only BTC ?

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:33

If you are interested, I had previously opened an issue that considers privacy loss from postmix consolidations: https://github.com/WalletWasabi/WalletWasabi/issues/10565

Here's a table of amount agnostic combinations that allow the closest naive guesses: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SpptwNZEf1Zikq2TGerUx1qTLefs_5xiYygS--9wnWI/edit?gid=528425917#gid=528425917

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:22

Payincoinjoin is available in Wasabi only by using the RPC, but it's a full GUI feature in BTCPay Server's coinjoin plugin.
https://docs.wasabiwallet.io/using-wasabi/RPC.html#payincoinjoin

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:21

havent tried that yet. will do

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:19

manually consolidating is the only option for most. but thats diminishing everyones anon sets... but yeah... dont let the good be the enemy of the perfect

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:18

that wouldnt be a problem for everyone understanding the utxo model. but for everyone else (wich is the majority of cours)

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:17

The fewer denominations available to a user in the coinjoin round, the more likely it is they will produce change above their "waste" level, and the more deterministic their selections become.

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:16

but of course its not as easy ans simple to set this up. would chanbge a lot

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:14

It's not really a factor of liquidity, it's a division problem.

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:13

The tradeoff with that is that you would often create an uneven "change" output in the coinjoin since lower denominations are not available, which also reduces the anon sets others would gain as well.

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:12

setting a min value for outputs would help a lot

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:10

I wouldn't say "unusable". Private coins don't become non private just because you merge them together, it's only a marginal privacy loss compared to spending them individually. But the issue of many UTXOs isn't inherently solvable, there's always some sort of tradeoff depending on the strategy:

1. You can reduce privacy by consolidating outputs from coinjoins
2. You can reduce privacy by creating less outputs in each coinjoin
3. You can reduce privacy by adding more inputs in each coinjoin

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 13:58

Also this has some privacy implication. I think when you are a merchant you anyway have a lot of entropy with tx coming from thousand of people potentially. But if it’s just you that has consequences

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 13:57

makes it unusable for users with highher amounts

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 13:56

you think this will get merged?

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:36

This was addressed in Wasabi 2.0.6 with the "Safety Coinjoins" feature that auto remixes the outputs from your first coinjoin when you fund an empty wallet. In BTCPay Server's plugin, this functionality is enabled with the "Consider entry proximity" option.

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:24

Not terribly, I just started getting used to Wasabi's RPC after using Bitcoin Core's RPC a bit.

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:21

can only be done in btcpay or also in wasabi?

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:21

I meant manually consolidating by paying your own address in a coinjoin :)

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:18

It may be inconvenient, but you can send payments in coinjoins to vastly improve your privacy (or manually consolidate your UTXOs privately).

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:17

anyway, just a thought

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:16

my guess is introducing a plus 0.1 btc pool would increase liquidity a lot...

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:15

not if the coinjoin in different pools like under and over 0.1 btc

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:14

except if there are enough users for small and big utxos

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:13

not just the person coinjoing but also all other participants in the rounds

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:11

if you coinjoin a few bitcoin and you get 1000 utxos with around 5000 to 10000 sats most will recombine thus reducing their own and others anon sets...

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 14:01

(the anonset being smaller)

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 13:58

if it will not be merged

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 13:57

I don't think this approach is favored by the devs, they seem to prefer the strategy of registering more inputs for each round instead.

Wasabi Wallet

02 Sep 2024 13:55

Here's the open issue for it: https://github.com/WalletWasabi/WalletWasabi/issues/12674