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17 Oct 2023 19:28

🍎The Celtic Adam and Eve

I’ve discovered that Gaelic myth has the only provably Indo-European version of the “Adam and Eve” story that includes theft of the forbidden fruit.

What does this mean for Comparative Myth studies and the origin of this myth?

I’m joined by Collin, Arno Preiner, and Josephus to discuss the implications of this finding.

Part 1:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IVnF6sXZPqQ

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22 Sep 2023 20:06

Could Fenrir actually be Vishnu?

Part 2 of our discussion:
https://tinyurl.com/sm23ussr

It is undeniable that Hindu tradition treats the lion-form Narasimha-Vishnu in the same way that Fenrir is treated in Norse tradition:

as a rampaging beast who the gods fear will destroy gods and cosmos alike, as MahaKala, Great Time.

In some versions he can only be defeated by an avatar of Siva whose sole purpose is to kill him.

Replace Siva with Odin and Narasimha with Fenrir and the myth is nearly identical.

Our roundtable discussion asks: is there any other interpretation of the evidence, or any other Vishnu parallel to be found?

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19 Sep 2023 23:43

Cú Chulainn has parallels in the Vishnu avatars Vamana, Narasimha, Krishna, and even Narayana.

He is the total Vishnu — unsurpassed as such outside of Hinduism.


A few of us got together to discuss the details and implications of this parallel.
With Arno Preiner @ fvrorpoeticvs, Collin, and Josephus.

Part 1: Cú Chulainn is Vishnu

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vN5OXzH1qkA

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28 Aug 2023 08:43

Hymn to Finn
(Adapted from the Rig Veda, tr. Griffith)

1. To Finn bring these songs, whose bow is firm and strong, the self-dependent God with swiftly-flying shafts,
The Wise, the Conqueror whom none may overcome, armed with sharp-pointed weapons: may he hear our call.
2 He through his lordship thinks on beings of the earth, on heavenly beings through his high imperial sway.
Come willingly to our doors that gladly welcome thee, and heal all sickness, Finn, in our families.
3 May thy bright arrow which, shot down by thee from heaven, flieth upon the earth, pass us uninjured by.
Thou, very gracious God, hast thousand medicines: inflict no evil on our sons or progeny.
4 Slay us not, nor abandon us, O Finn let not thy noose, when thou art angry, seize us.
Give us trimmed grass and fame among the living. Preserve us evermore, ye Gods, with blessings.

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18 Aug 2023 00:57

One of my elite video-watchers has realized that I am gradually revealing that the structure of all Indo-European creation myths is the same as that of the Egyptian creation myth of Atum aka Tem.

The head of Buri emerging from primordial ice is mythically the same as the head of Atum emerging from primordial waters, as the primordial mound, axis mundi, and father of the gods.

The Seed of Atum is likewise the same as Borr, the auto-generated offspring of Buri - Kama-Manyu of the Vedics, Mil Espaine of the Gaels.

Nothing here is accidental:

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11 Aug 2023 21:50

The video I released today also answers the mystery of who are the Tuisto and Mannus mentioned by Tacitus. I have never seen this cleanly explained before, and don’t believe it can be explained without understanding Manyu (=Mannus).

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02 Aug 2023 02:02

The Demonized Trickster High-God: Útgarða-Loki is Búri, Prajapati, Crom Cruach, and Enki


WE have been too easily tricked. We have forgotten and failed to recognize our own god of Totality, the "Head of All the Gods," as Gaelic tradition calls him.

The trickster giant Útgarða-Loki is simply another name of Búri, origin (“head”) of all the gods, lord of Reality and Unreality, the god known as Prajapati and Brahma in Vedic mythology.

This tricky and often-demonized high-god is called Crom Cruach by the Gaels, among other names, and this god type is known as Enki among the Sumerians, as a particularly mind-blowing parallel demonstrates.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ztXRbTuupDE

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28 Jul 2023 01:50

It is when we look at all of the Indian versions that we can see most of the pieces found in the Norse version, and if we put them all together we can almost reconstruct that version with Indian elements. We have: The overpowering Old Hag who embodies an abstract concept and who makes the Thunderer “become small” in order to resist her; the illusion of the magically moved mountains, perhaps used to block the Thunderer’s attack; the Thunderer and chief demon both going to Prajapati and being tricked as with Thor and Loki; the heavy emphasis on this whole encounter being a lesson about time and death as structuring elements of the cosmos that cannot be fully defeated; the Thunderer either being directly on his way to or from his fight with the great serpent monster.

The idea that Indra is considering himself the lord of the universe or is trying to become such is also repeated in a few of the Indian versions, and this is consistent with the Sumerian version, where Ninurta is on his way to challenge to become king of the gods. This is why Enki must humble him, and he does so successfully. This element does not seem to be present in the Norse version, and so it must simply have been de-emphasized and forgotten in that tradition. And finally, we have the previously mentioned fight against the Abyss monster and the moving of its feet by the warrior god, which frightens the trickster high god. These details once again tie the Norse and Sumerian versions closely together. So thorough are the parallels that I have listed, that if we were to take these Sumerian parallels plus the listed Indian parallels we could indeed almost reconstitute the whole Norse tale (with a few elements missing, of course).

The most important detail to me, however, is that it is Prajapati in the earliest Upanishadic version, and Vishnu-Brahma in the Vaishnava version, who is the trickster high god and parallel of Útgarða-Loki. The conclusion from all of these parallels is as unavoidable as Old Age and as awe-inspiring as the sight of two fighting mountains: Útgarða-Loki is Prajapati aka Brahma, the god of Totality and trickster lord of magical generation. Prajapati is origin of all the gods and grandfather of Rudra, as Buri is origin of the gods and grandfather of Odin, born from the ice during the creation as Prajapati is born from the waters during the creation.

And thus Útgarða-Loki is none other than Buri at play.

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19 Jul 2023 22:55

“There are some big differences both superficially and in theme but ultimately the Thunderer is confronted with a cosmic reality that causes them to question their strength and powers, and checks their pride.

And though both [Thor and Indra] are slandered somewhat, they’re also redeemed in the end. Indra must do his important karmic duty, and Thor was in fact struggling against, well you know the story” — that is, against the manifest form of the Absolute and the forces that structure reality.

As such, both the Indian and ancient Sumerian traditions have strong parallels to Utgarda-Loki, and these parallels are each the manifest form of the Absolute, the god known as Brahma or Prajapati by the Vedics —

This is the god who is also called Buri in the Norse creation myth, as I’ve repeatedly shown.



To ignore these blatant parallels would be to fail to understand the entire lesson of Utgarda-Loki’s myth, which is a lesson about Reality itself that can only be taught by the master of Reality and Unreality.

To hide one’s head in the sand here and fail to recognize the identity of Utgarda-Loki would be to succumb to Illusion indeed.


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17 Jul 2023 23:08

The Demonized Trickster High-God:
Útgarða-Loki is Búri, aka Crom Crúach — and Enki

Did you know we have more myths of Búri, the grandfather of Odin, under another name?


Útgarða-Loki.


This article demonstrates how Útgarða-Loki is simply a pseudonym worn by Búri, the primeval trickster god of creation, known to the Celts as Crom Crúach.

https://telegra.ph/Buri-is-Utgarda-Loki-aka-Enki-and-Crom-Cruach-07-15

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30 Jun 2023 23:34

A Necromancer’s Folly

Frost cracks beneath each step,
under moonlit sky,
Where stones stand tall,
And the dead do lay,

Seeking those ,
Who came before,
In which to speak
Of future’s lore,

A warm glow strikes,
The icy night,
As I set the candle,
And sang the rite.

O’, dead ones, hark!
Hear my words!
In the name of the Wanderer,
Let the Wise be heard!

Of this honeyed wine,
Drink long and deep,
Hear my words,
Those who sleep.

Ye bones who rest,
Within Ymir’s flesh,
Drink long and deep,
‘Til you are full.

In the name of Gaut,
Let loose your tongues,
Grant me wisdom,
For the words I’ve sung!

The wind began to howl,
As my last words were spake,
A growl from beneath,
And the earth did shake,

Before I could look,
To what came from ground,
Up in dark night,
T’was most horrific sound.

A Grey horseman rode,
Upon steed with eight,
A ghostly legion,
Sealed my fate.

The Screamer called,
And chilled my bones,
I fell to earth cold,
And now atone.

Upon darkest night,
Where the moon sits high,
The Dead Host rides,
And so do I.

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23 Jun 2023 21:40

Yesterday, on Midsummer, archeologists announced a monumental find in the Netherlands. A large sacred site with burial mounds and grave fields arranged as a solar calendar, for which it's been called the Dutch Stonehenge. They have found over a million items, which show the site was in use for at least 800 years starting from the early Bronze Age, but probably for much longer afterwards.

Because of the way this lovely country works, the site will NOT be preserved. There is an industrial development planned, and the municipality deems it isn't worth protecting since a large scale touristic attraction (like at Stonehenge) can't be realized.

This is of course outrageous, and together with Zonnevlam and Swesaz we are organizing action to try and save this sacred site. Please sign the petition so we can put pressure on the municipality! The website is in Dutch but it's very easy, enter your name/initials and email address, then don't forget to confirm your signature through the email they send you!
Please share this far and wide!

PETITION LINK
https://petities.nl/petitions/red-het-heiligdom-van-tiel?locale=nl

Article in English
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/21/archaeologists-unearth-stonehenge-netherlands

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10 Jun 2023 01:14

You Don’t Know THE SKY FATHER: Dyaus Pitar and Ymir

New video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SQEspGHwAp8

As a result of an incomplete understanding of the Vedic Dyaus Pitar, there is a catastrophic crack down the center of our mythic worldview, including the understanding of the paradigm of the sacrifice itself.

We need to radically upgrade our knowledge of who the Vedic Dyaus is if we ever want to know how the Indo-European “Sky Father” actually functioned in the theology of the ancients, and if we ever want to have an accurate and formidable theology in our own traditions.

Luckily this can be done.

My new video is the most in-depth comparative study of Vedic Dyaus that has yet been compiled (although it is compressed for time), and clears away the piles of errors that the subject has been buried under.

If we don’t come to understand exactly what the Vedic Dyaus is, we will be trapped in a false theology that I predict will take decades to escape, if we are ever able to.

Will this be our fate? Will we waste precious decades due to inertia? Will we be satisfied with a theology that is not as precise as it needs to be, because it is simpler and more comfortable?

Or will we choose to know Dyaus for what he is?

This is the situation I want to help repair:
You don’t know Dyaus, and as a result you don’t know the Sky Father.

This knowledge is available to all, however, and grasping it is the first requirement for anyone who is serious about constructing an accurate theology in any Indo-European tradition.


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03 Jun 2023 02:06

Tapestri has now released the full album, UNDER THE PAW, which happens to feature vocals from our admin Swan on the song My Kind, an album highlight.

A mix of heathen and dystopian themes on this from some incredible artists from our very own community.

It may or may not be the intention, but my interpretation is that The Paw is the Paw of Fenrir, and we will be trapped under it until we collectively reach awareness of its presence, and invoke those who know how to throw it off and defeat the wolf.

I’ve had the title track stuck in my head for days now.


Also, I will be releasing a massive video on Ymir next week, stay tuned.

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26 May 2023 22:06

Odinic song from a friend of ours, the amazing Tapestri.

Spot the StJ sample… I’m a sucker for a haunting tune and a pagan mythological lesson in one.

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29 Sep 2023 17:14

The Norse Cosmic Egg

If Ymir is Sky-Earth, then why is he born first, while Buri is born second?

Sky-Earth being formed first, as the "material shell" of the cosmos, is what we consistently see in Indo-European myth, when we look closer.

Thus Ymir as Sky-Earth is in the only position he could be in, created just before Buri emerges from the ice as the completed totality god who fathers the other gods.

Full video below:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1om6TCdBgYg

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20 Sep 2023 23:07

Two translations of
Scáthach’s Prophecy to Cú Chulainn

Who do you think is the Norse parallel of this Gaelic “Hound”?


“Warriors will be set aside by you,
necks will be broken by you,
your sword will strike blows to the rear
against Setante's red river.
Hard-bladed, you will cut the trees
by the sign of slaughter, by manly feats.
[…]
A band of brigands you will join
and will bring away many people and oxen.
Many wounds will be inflicted
upon you, O hound of Chulainn.
You will suffer a vengeful wound
when you do battle at the last wall.
From your red-pronged weapon there will be defeat,
men pierced against the furious wave,
against the whale-tooth fiercely thrust,
a whale performing feats with blows.
Women will wail and tear their clothes,
Medb and Ailill boast of it.
No death-bed awaits you
after slaughters of great ferocity.”


———

“one against an army
your own blood a red plague
splashed on many a smashed shield
on weapons and women red eyed
the field of slaughter growing red
on chopped flesh raven's feed
the crow scours the plowed ground
the savage kite shall be found
herds broken up in wrath
great hosts driving the hordes
blood spilt in a great flood
Cuchulainn's body wasted
there are bitter wounds to bear
and warriors to slaughter
with your red stabbing spiked spear
grief and sorrow where you roam
murderous on Murtheimne Plain
playing at the stabbing game
now the crafty champion comes
in rage against a mighty wave
heroic in his mighty acts
and harsh scream and cruel heart
let him come and women kill
and Medb fight with Ailill
a bed of sickness lies in wait
your breast full of fierce hate
[…]
proud striding raider pitiless
for Ulster's land and virgin women
rise now in all your force
with warlike cruel and wounding shield
and strong shafted curved spear
and straight sword dyed red
in dark gatherings of blood.”

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15 Sep 2023 02:10

In general, people are at an utter loss in trying to recognize Vishnu in European mythologies.

The answer is Cú Chulainn.

Not only is Cú Chulainn Vishnu, but he is the most well-preserved Vishnu parallel in any branch. He may even rival the Hindu version of Vishnu in how much of his extensive mythos remains intact, due to the occasional sectarian airbrushing of Vishnu’s corpus over time.

So, what was the archaic European Vishnu like? Look at Cú Chulainn (I believe his proper deity name is Neit). Recognize there the god of overpowering and permeating Tejas.


Perhaps more shocking is who his Norse parallel is.

Stay tuned.

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26 Aug 2023 00:14

A hymn to the Great God, Finn.
Adapted from Thomas Taylor’s Orphic Hymns.

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12 Aug 2023 21:08

Is Zeus the Soul or the “One”?

In Plotinus' Enneads, he calls Cronus the Intellectual-Principle, the Cosmic Mind, the Nous, and calls Cronus' son Zeus the Soul hypostasis. As the Nous begets the Soul in the unfolding of the hypostases, so Cronus begets Zeus. But keep in mind this “Soul/Zeus” is a hypostasis of The One. Although he is born late in the myths, Zeus is the culminating sovereign who as such recapitulates the One in himself and on the level of Soul. Because he is the culmination of the unfolding of the One, Zeus was seen as also pre-existing as the name of the primordial One by some Greeks. They called this Zeus Hypsistos, the “Most High.” Zeus Hypsistos is basically Zeus being identified in the primordial Prajapati role, being identified with Protogonos or the Cosmic Egg or the power manifesting these -- the 1 in the beginning.

The Egyptians did essentially the same thing theologically, and this was explained more clearly with numerology as "10=1" (See Naydler's Temple of the Cosmos and West's Serpent in the Sky). Horus is the culminating sovereign like Zeus, and he is born late and designated as 10 in the series of gods. Horus was then identified with Atum-Ra, the primordial god who had first emerged from the waters, the Prajapati-type god. Atum-Ra is 1 in the numerological series of gods. So by identifying 10 with 1, Horus with Atum-Ra, they are saying that the completed series of 10 recapitulates the 1 that was there from the beginning. This is basically the same as how Zeus was being treated esoterically in Greek tradition. Zeus is the hypostasis of Soul, which is a late hypostasis in the unfolding, and Zeus is born late in the myths. But because he culminates the series, it is like 10=1: he is treated as the complete 1, esoterically present from the beginning although present in the world as the later-born Soul.

The “late-born culminating sovereign” is what the Vedics called Mitra or Mitra-Varuna, while the One born from the waters in the primordial moment was called Prajapati. This is why Zeus mostly aligns with Mitra mythically, but has other myths from the Prajapati-Dyaus complex (the cosmic egg).
Zeus can only be understood in relation to both of these roles, as 10=1, Mitra = Prajapati.


If we, in large numbers, cannot eventually understand slightly complex theological details like this, we are not gonna make it.

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11 Aug 2023 16:46

Míl Espáine/Borr, Father of Odin, is Kama-Manyu/Eros, God of FURY and PASSION

Who are the fathers of the mannerbund gods Eber Finn and Odin?

NEW VIDEO: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fy9vCj_D3Jg

Míl Espáine, whose true name is Galam, father of Eber Finn, is the god of Passionate Fury, known as Manyu by the Vedics. This Manyu is the other side or other name of the god called Kama, god of Desire. Kama-Manyu is the overflow of creative heat from the god called Prajapati, the one who is born from the waters in the primordial moment and fathers all the gods. Kama-Manyu is the furious overflow that most importantly gives rise to Rudra.

In the same way, Mil/Galam begets Eber Finn, the Gaelic Rudra-type god on the primordial scene. The Norse Borr, son of Buri, is likewise this same god: the auto-generated offspring of the One who emerged from the ice in the primordial moment and fathered all the gods. Borr then begets Odin as Kama-Manyu gives rise to Rudra and Galam begets Eber Finn.

Kama-Manyu is the missing link in the riddle of the core genealogy of the creation myths of the Indo-Europeans, and no other solution to the identity of Mil and Borr will suffice.

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02 Aug 2023 00:02

Happy Lúnasa!

Revisit the mythology of Lugh and celebrate the victorious god today.

Utgarda-Loki/Crom Cruach video will be up this evening.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ssNuA_zj-Tc

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28 Jul 2023 01:50

Útgarða-Loki as Prajapati continued, once again

There are yet more surviving versions of “The Humbling of Indra,” the Indian myth that parallels the Thor and Útgarða-Loki myth.
The likely earliest version is from the Chandogya Upanishad, and in this version Indra is humbled by the trickery of Prajapati, the god who in the Vedas is the manifest Totality or form of the Absolute. So in the previously mentioned Vaishnavite version, Indra is humbled by Vishnu-Brahma, the Absolute in the form of Brahma, and in the early Upanishad version he is humbled by Prajapati, the manifest form of the Absolute as it is known in the Vedas.

This supports what I have been claiming: the original myth would have been the Thunderer humbled by the Prajapati aka Brahma type god (these two names were used interchangeably for the same god in the Vedic period).

In the Upanishad version, both Indra and a chief of the demons, Virocana, together are tricked by the deceptive words of Prajapati. This early version then parallels the fact that Thor and the demonic Loki go together to Útgarða-Loki, where both are tricked. We might presume then that the archaic Indo-European version of this myth could have had the Thunderer and Chief Demon both being tricked by the High God, as in the Norse and Upanishadic versions.

A Shaivite version also exists, in which it is Shiva (treated as the Absolute or Brahman) who takes a manifest form called Virupaksa. Indra, presuming himself the lord of the universe, is exhibiting a fight between rutting elephants. Virupaksa-Siva shows him a fight between two great mountains. This sight humbles Indra and he begins to listen to the teachings of Virupaksa-Siva, who teaches him the nature of the Self that is beyond Illusion, as in other Indian versions.

The contrast between the elephants and the mountains shows the smallness of Indra’s powers in comparison with the power of the Absolute (as the sight of the ants does in the Vaishnava version), and it also reminds us of one of the illusions that Útgarða-Loki tricks Thor with. In the form of the enormous giant Skrymir, Útgarða-Loki makes Thor believe he has struck him in the head with his hammer, but Útgarða-Loki has really moved a mountain in the way, to deflect the blow. His illusion is so powerful, however, that it appears to Thor that he really has struck the giant’s head. So we have a contrast between the giant’s head and the mountain, with Útgarða-Loki magically moving the mountain in the way and making it appear to be the giant’s head. Siva-Virupaksa magically makes the two mountains move to fight one another, this sight outshining the fight of Indra’s elephants. When we read that Virupaksa was also considered a giant, and that he was sometimes pictured as an elephant or associated with them, these images begin to blend together and the possibility arises that Virupaksa is something similar to Skrymir, and the elephants that contrast with the magically moved mountains would parallel the head of the giant Skrymir, which is contrasted against the mountain that Útgarða-Loki moves in its way. Skrymir himself would here be in place of the elephants of the other version, since we know the elephants are indeed symbols of the giant Virupaksa.

A version in the Bhagavata Purana has Krishna as The Absolute, and he takes the form of a mountain. He then picks the mountain up and moves it to deflect Indra’s attack upon Krishna’s sacred cowherds. This sequence is obviously extremely reminiscent of the mountain being moved and disguised as Skrymir’s own head in order for it to block the attack of Thor. Indra also rides an elephant in this fight with Krishna, perhaps tying the various symbols together. Krishna’s overwhelming nature as Kala, Time, is also emphasized in this version.

However these symbols were moved around in the different versions, we can see that an awe-inspiring illusion or display involving a magically moved mountain is something common to the Norse, Shaivite, and Krishnaite versions, and so this is one more parallel to add to the long list we have compiled.

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19 Jul 2023 22:55

Utgarda-Loki as Brahma continued

The user Heiland pointed out that Puranic Hindu tradition preserves a likely parallel of the Utgarda-Loki myth that I hadn’t investigated.
It is known as “The Humbling of Indra,” from the Brahmavaivarta Purana, a Vaishnavite text.

In this tale, the parallel of Utgarda-Loki is the Absolute god Vishnu in the form of Brahma.

Vishnu-Brahma humbles Indra as Utgarda-Loki tricks Thor, and as Enki humbles Ninurta.

If this is a true parallel, then it confirms what I have claimed for Utgarda-Loki:

His parallels in other branches are consistently the manifest form of the Absolute itself, called Brahma or Prajapati in Vedic tradition.

As I noted, Brahma is called the master of Maya, Illusion, and in this Vaishnavite myth, Vishnu, treated as the Absolute here, becomes Brahma, and then further disguises himself as a dwarfish Brahmana youth in order to humble Indra.

As the Utgarda-Loki myth happens while Thor is on his way to catch the Midgard Serpent, and the Enki myth happens when Ninurta has just defeated the bird of the Abyss waters, so also this myth of Indra happens right after he has killed Vritra, the great serpent monster of Vedic tradition.

The sequence of connected events are thus directly comparable in each case.

In addition, the Indra tale includes a scene where Indra is confronted by an old hag who is actually the embodiment of an abstract concept. Likewise, one of the beings that Thor has to fight at Castle Utgard is an old hag who is actually the embodiment of Old Age, an abstract force. In the case of Indra, the terrifying old hag that confronts and threatens him is instead the embodiment of his sin from killing Vritra. Thor is able to withstand the hag “Old Age” and is only brought to one knee before the fight is called, meanwhile Indra evades the old hag by shrinking himself down and hiding. Indra evades while Thor withstands, neither one defeating the hag but each one resisting the great abstract force she represents. Each one also is brought “low” by the hag in some sense.

Then Visvakarman and Brahma ask Vishnu for help in humbling Indra, and so he, the Absolute, manifests as Brahma, but in a disguise.

“Lord Visnu assured Brahma and sent him back to his abode. He himself took to the form of a Brahmana boy…he was dwarfish in outlook and white teeth…He was in the form of a small boy but he possessed the divine intelligence. He himself was Brahma for Brahma and bestower of all the riches.“

This Vishnu-Brahma in disguise then demonstrates a cosmic illusion to Indra. He points out a line of ants and explains how they each had been Indras of eons past, and that the other high gods had also been reborn numberless times in the eternal cycle.

Indra says: “…tell me influenced by the illusion and possessing all the virtues who are you in the form of a boy?”

After some further discussion:
“Brahmana said- O Indra, I have created the entire group of the ants, one by one, all these ants had been established, on a throne of Indra one by one. All of them after having been born in various yugas have currently been born as ants.”

He also gives Indra a lesson about time and death, perhaps again reminiscent of Thor’s fights with Old Age and the other unbeatable cosmic forces that structure reality.

“In this universe with the combination of time, the death hovers around the head of everyone. Everything of the creatures irrespective of good and bad are like the water bubbles,” Vishnu-Brahma says.

“On hearing this Indra was immensely surprised; he stopped thinking so much of himself.”

An ascetic appears to speak to the youth, demonstrates devotion, and then disappears to Siva’s domain. After this, “Indra looked at the whole scene like a dream.” Similarly, Utgarda-Loki vanishes in a flash after explaining his illusion, leaving Thor in a state of wonder.

Indra acknowledges his duty to Visvakarman, gives him numerous precious gems, and honors him. He then goes to learn dharma and scripture from Indrani and Brihaspati, filled with a greater piety.


As Heiland summarized the parallel:

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30 Jun 2023 23:36

Posted above is a poem written by myself. Please enjoy! If the spooky and macabre with a pagan flare are of interest to you, please consider following my page. Thank you!

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28 Jun 2023 03:27

- I forgot to mention an important detail in my Ymir and Dyaus video:

Ymir is the father of the Jotnar, while the Greek Ouranos, the deified Sky who is married to Earth, is the progenitor of both the Titans and the Gigantes — one or both of these groups parallel the Jotnar or “Giants” of the Norse.

This is a pretty well-established parallel that I have heard others point out more than once before, which is partly why I forgot to include it. It is so plain to see that it almost goes without saying.

However, it is yet another piece of evidence solidifying the equivalence of Ymir and Ouranos-Gaia, and is one more example of “Father Sky” (Ouranos) fathering a frightening and ambivalent race of beings, as we also saw with the Mesopotamian Father Sky, Anu.

As a parallel, this parentage comparison between Ymir and Ouranos is very clear, easy to understand, and impossible to brush aside. Ymir fathers the races of beings equivalent to those generated by Ouranos and Gaia. Their roles are equivalent.

Added to everything else in my video, can anyone now doubt that Ymir is anything but the “Sky-Earth” we see in all other branches, the Dyavaprithivi of the Vedas?


- Another detail I meant to include in my video was the fact that one translation of the Shahnameh does indeed state that Kayumars, the established parallel of Ymir, cries tears of blood for his dead son (and is not only said to have blood on his face when he cries), exactly as we see with multiple other Father Sky types who cry tears of blood for their sons.

“When Kayumars heard what had happened, he fell off his throne, lacerating his face and crying tears of blood.” - Shahnameh, Sadri translation.

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If you have not yet watched my Dyaus and Ymir video please take the time to do so. In two short hours this video rewrites and repairs the many persistent flaws in the common view of the Indo-European creation myth and the understanding of the sacrifice itself that comes out of this myth.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SQEspGHwAp8

No one I have spoken to has yet been able to contradict or answer what I have proven here: Ymir is Dyavaprithivi, he is Dyaus Pitar and Prithivi in union, he is the Norse Father Sky.

In my view we do not have time to continue misunderstanding the creation myth so severely (as the flawed, common academic reconstructions have set us up to do), nor do we have time to continue missing the incredible fact that the Indo-European branches are mythically already in harmony to a degree that has not been grasped thus far.


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21 Jun 2023 04:52

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03 Jun 2023 02:06

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26 May 2023 22:06

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04 May 2023 00:06

On Agni and Rudra

see: Lodurr and Odin, Manawydan and Efnysien, Manannan and Finn


“Of Agni and Rudra, cooperating powers to the point of identity, Agni is the first-born, and their roles are not always reversible. Agni acts in Rudra and Rudra exceeds him in intensity. He is Agni’s incandescence.”

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The connection of Rudra and Agni circles a point of identity. Agni is Rudra. This homology, stated again and again in sacred scripture (RV.1.27.10; 2.1.6; 3.2.5; 4.3.1; 8.61.3; TS.1.3.14.1; 1.5.1.1; 2.6.6.6; 5.4.3.1; 5.4.10.5; 5.5.74; ŚB.1.7.3.8; 6.1.3.10; 9.1.1.1; MBh.3.218.27), is one of nature, not of person. Inasmuch as his nature is that of fire, Rudra is Agni.

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Indeed, Rudra is Agni and Agni is Rudra (TS.2.2.10.4; 3.5.5.2; 5.5.74; cf. MBh.13.146.1-2). They are one in nature, though not in intensity. Rudra is the terrible, frightening, quintessential Agni. He is the fury of Fire (TS.2.2.2.3). Like fire, but fiercer and even “more luminous, wild, tremendous Rudra is fire, lightning, and the sun (MBh.13.146.4). Fire is the power of illumination and is concentrated in him. He burns; he is atrocious, and full of heat; like fire he devours flesh, blood, and marrow (MBh.13.146.7). The Wild God—the essence of fire—is in the fire, in the waters, in the plants; he has entered all beings (KāS.40.5; TS.5.5.9.3; cf. AT.7.87.1). Inwardly he marks them with his signature. “The names of the different manifestations of Rudra . . . should be contemplated as written in fire inside the different parts of the body” (cf. AP.293.43-47).

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Rudra is Agni; he is the fierce essence of fire. Agni is Rudra’s mildest form. Fierce, all-pervading, all-enlivening, all-consuming, Rudra holds the world in his power. He does not serve it, as does Agni—the fire of the hearth and of the altar.

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Though one in nature, Agni and Rudra face in opposite directions: Agni’s concern is the life of man, and Rudra’s concern is man’s freedom from the contingencies of life, his reintegration into the absolute as it was and is from before creation.”

- Stella Kramrisch, The Presence of Siva