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A place for Aryan (European) Folkish Pagans
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1) The myths are literally true
2) Different mythic sources contradict each other
Both of these are required for a serious pagan theology. We're not atheists, so we believe the first. We've read the sources, so we believe the second.
Some heathens see (2) as such a problem that they end up rejecting (1). They will say that straightforward belief in the myths is a "Christian" or an "Abrahamic" thing. This is ridiculous. It just as much an Egyptian thing, an Igbo thing, a Yakut thing, etc. Believing that your myths really happened, believing that your tradition is not lying, is an "every folk" thing. The only thing it's not is a Platonist thing.
We need to build a new framework for interpreting myth (really, we need to rebuild the oldest one). We can't import one from classical Greece.
We have work to do. It would be negligent to just copypaste a defective framework from a dying civilization and call it a day.
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The tale of Christ’s life as related in the gospels shares many parallels with other religious figures besides Buddha. Another one was Dionysus, who was said by the Greeks to be the son of Zeus-the “father of the gods.” In other words, Dionysus was considered the “son of god,” or the “son of the father.” His mother was a mortal named Semele, who was supernaturally impregnated by Zeus.
Dionysus, like Christ, was a traveling teacher and he was alleged to be the god of wine. This too is similar to Christ, who put a heavy emphasis on wine, both in the ceremonial “Lord’s Supper” and the “miracle” of turning water into wine at the Cana wedding feast.
C.Guiliani
Numerous other events in Christ’s life, as described in the gospels, precisely parallel those in the life of Buddha to such an extent that they cannot be written off as mere coincidences. But the parallels go way beyond similarities in the life narratives of these two individuals. They also extend into the realm of their anecdotal sayings
C.Guiliani
Honest fathers and mothers! Do whatever it takes to keep your childrenn away from this…
If those stubborn and unruly sons will justify it saying that it’s an ancient custom and others celebrate it and similar ones too, you answer that it’s lowly to follow the customs of the ancestors or any other people and whether this custom is good or bad, soul-saving or not is not to be pondered.
Tikhon
Such celebration I saw, listeners, among christians, people who have trice renounced Satan and all of his deeds and trice swore to serve Christ…
Oh, woe! Christians forgot that they are christians. Honor Christ in words, but renounce Him in actions.
I assure you and testify that this celebration is devilish and reeks of idol worship.
Everything in it shows that there used to an ancient idol called Jarilo which was worshipped in these countries before christian piety.
Tikhon
In 1765 a monk by the name Tikhon of Zadonsk was pleading with the citizens of Voronezh to abandon a celebration associated with Jarilo. I decided to translate his speech.
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Never fallowed that guy, but it is funny. If you want to be a big channel/personality online keep in mind that you’ll eventually get doxxed.
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This is the most virgin theology I've ever seen and I've read Augustine.
This is your brain on Buddhism. Vedism on the other hand, is a true folkish religion. The oldest passages of the Rigveda say nothing about reincarnation. And when reincarnation does come in to a real folkish religion like Vedism, it is confined to rebirth in a lineage, within families:
Release him to his fathers and again down from them, who, poured into you, travels according to his will. Let him who wears life come to his offspring. Let him join his body, Jātavedas!’
– RV 10.16.5
Vedism emphatically does not involve rebirth as a mouse, a flea, or a horsefly. Buddhism is a late development of Vedanta and the Upanishads, which are themselves late developments of the original Aryan religion. They are said to be secret teachings, probably because they were heretical and contrary to orthodox Vedic interpretation during the actual Vedic period.
Folkish Aryan religion sees reincarnation as confined within lineages, as Celtic and Germanic paganism does. Buddhism is not and cannot be folkish. It universalizes the moral circle, extending it to all life and beyond even this lifetime. This is unspeakably subversive and anti-folkish.
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Christians simply remove the god placing him beyond the real world which they see as profane and lowly. Xenophanes dilutes the Gods into nothing. Essentially in his theology everything you can call is divine. The latter goes against Hellenic tradition he was born in which is why Xenophanes had no place to call home for most of his life. When there’s no longer particular deities, but one abstract divine power which exists everywhere and nowhere in particular there’s no Paganism.
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Commentary
"Struggle against what is specifically Hellenic", "Struggle against polytheism". In these words we can summarize Xenophanes. Notice that Nietzsche is somewhat impressed with the heretic and paints him as a person who wanted to purify the religion of his people. As a result he just took the people out of it. While Nietzsche claims that Xenophanes’ god is not akin to christian ganz andere (impersonal spirit) I disagree. Blurring of spirit and matter leads to divine becoming diluted to the point where everything is god and as a result nothing truly is. As Pagans we can point at our Gods and call them Gods, then point at, say, a park bench and call it a park bench. In pantheistic-monotheistic blur such separation of Gods and not Gods is impossible.
He noticed that everyone imagines the gods like themselves:
Negroes [see them as] black and flat-nosed; Thracians, blue eyed and red
haired.
His main propositions include the following:
One god, greatest among gods and men, in no way similar to mortals either in body or in thought.
Pagan practices are about establishing personal connection with the Gods of your people. One can’t have anything personal with abstract notions and empty titles such as Sky Father or Thunderer. Pray to Odin or Thor, not academic theories which present Gods as fictional archetypes molded by humanity. It’s basically atheism i.e. heresy.
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In “The Bacchae,” a play written by Euripides in the fifth century BC, we find that Dionysus “gave the pain-removing delight of wine equally to the wealthy man and to the lesser man.” Here we see that Dionysus, like Christ, was reputed to be concerned about the poor and the rich alike.
Within the same play just mentioned, we see that Dionysus was arrested for claiming to be divine, and was consequently interrogated by King Pentheus, similar to what is claimed to have happened to Christ at the hand of the Jewish leaders of his day.
C.Guiliani
- In Matthew 7:3 Jesus said: “And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?”
In the Dhammapada Buddha wrote: “The faults of others are more easily seen than one’s own, but seeing one’s own failings is difficult.”
- Christ said that he who chooses him as Lord must take up the cross, deny oneself, and follow him. He also said that his yoke was easy and his burden light.
Buddha said: “He who wishes to follow me must know himself and bear my yoke.”
- Christ said to love our fellow man and to do good to those who persecute us.
Buddha stated: “Hostility is never conquered by hostility in this world; hostility is conquered by love.
That is the eternal law.”
C.Guiliani
Stepping back to the beginning of Christ’s storyline, we find that his conception and birth have an uncanny resemblance to those of Buddha. In both cases, the mother was a paragon of virtue, had a vision, and, without sexual relations, became pregnant with an extraordinary child. Each baby was delivered while the mother was on a journey, and these births were both announced by angels, as the stories go. After the birth of Buddha, a hermit sage, who had heard the celebrations of angels, was told by them that the infant would sit on the throne of enlightenment. In the Christian story, the angels appeared and told shepherds that a child was born who is Christ the Lord. And Christ is said to have later sat at the right hand of the throne of God.
C.Guiliani
"Has this celebration been held for long?" I asked some old men. They told me that it’s ancient. They then added that it grows from year to year and people await it as a yearly feast. And when it arrives they dress up in best clothes and slowly start to revel. Even little kids eagerly ask their mothers and fathers to go.
Tikhon
I learned, in the evening, from one good man, that on the field by the gates, some revelry called Jarilo is held. Eager to check if what I heard in the report is true I rode to the place myself and saw that it indeed was as I’ve heard. I saw that many men and women, young and old, as well as little kids from all over the city have gathered. Some of those many people were almost blind drunk. I saw some arguing, some fighting, some wounded and bloodied. I saw dances of drunk women with deplorable songs.
Tikhon
Slavic God Jarilo often associated with fertility and war drawn by Veneden
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I should get to transcribing What Is Wrong With the Bible? by C.Giuliani. As far as I know there’s no pdf available on the net, so the more I share from it the better. Has some good arguments against christians from a unique point of view (Giuliani used to be a priest).
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Can you tell me who those are whom Homer in his poems denominates Jove-begotten, resembling the gods, shepherd of the people, and whom he called by such other names as it is likely a poet would employ in celebrating the virtue of a man? Are they such as labouring in the earth with the spade and the harrow, are skilled in ploughing and planting, are dexterous in gathering in the crop, and elegantly arranging the vine?
But those blessed men whom he delights to praise are very different characters, and engaged in very different pursuits and works, such as Achilles pursuing, or Ajax engaged in single combat.
Maximus of Tyre
Happy father’s day to all Pagan dads
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Disregarding the mytho-poetical tradition of his people as nonsense only a peasant could believe the heretic tries to invents some secret truth, a code to crack. Being the only judge of his own effort the heretic is always successful and then proceeds to lead a life of preaching. The latter mostly falls on deaf ears, but some (naive youth) are corrupted. The heresy grows and gains attention. This leads to the leader being exiled or killed. A belated response which only helps the heretic’s movement grow by giving it a martyr.
Now. Whose life I’ve just described? Jesus’? Yes. Socrates’? Yes. Heraclitus’? Yes (though he was smart enough to exile himself and lived as a homeless recluse). Xenophanes’? Yes.
The pattern fits almost all Axial Age subverters. Though some of them were royalty like Heliogabalus and Akhenaten, but still ended up slapped back by the people (read what his own guard did to Elagabalus for being a proto-christian troon).
In Pagan theology the world is divine because it was shaped by the Gods and bears their marks. It is occupied by the Gods, but not every single place is divine. A few are, like temples or groves.
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Xenophanes struggles for a mythical, general notion of nature.
It is not some doctrine of an (im)personal God existing beyond the world, which would be some pure spirit; rather, the entire dichotomy between spirit and matter, deity and world, is absent here. He resolves the identification of God and man in order to equate God and nature. In this regard he leads a heightened ethical consciousness that seeks to distance all things human and unworthy from the gods; we are shown here a struggle against what is specifically Hellenic, as in his other ethical notions.
What naturally comes into consideration here, then, is not Xenophanes as a philosopher but rather his struggle [Kampf] against polytheism…
Commentary
I already wrote quite a lot on Xenophanes, an exiled heretic who influenced Socrates (who was executed for heresy) and through him (and plato) all christians and even other abrahamics. For example, Xenophanes is very respected in Islam generally seen as somewhat of a proto-prophet of Allah. Islamic anti-anthropomorphism owes more to heretics like Heraclitus, Xenophanes and Socrates than any Divine Inspiration muslims think they had.