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Folkishness is the future.
The word "folkslop" has begun to spread within fake pagan circles as a libel against actual paganism. This is because folkishness has emerged victorious from every contact with Platonism, monism, and other such heresies, and they don't know what else to do. Ironic that they consider themselves the "intellectual" wing of paganism but have lost every argument in recent years because—surprise!—turns out that not believing in the gods is indistinguishable from atheism. So they resort to tagging the thing they can't defeat with the word "slop". Pretty lazy, but then, they are out of options.
This won't go on much longer, though. The more intelligent Platonists have begun to follow one of two paths: either abandon Platonism for an actually traditional form of paganism, or remain Platonists and just convert to Christianity already. Either way, the salad days of Platonism parasitising paganism are over, and the rancorous "infighting" is simply the painful process of the body fighting off an infection that killed the ancient version of it.
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When you press Christians hard enough, they'll retreat to something like "well, Christianity united the white race" or "Christianity built Europe". But when they make this argument they're accepting the pagan frame.
One of the most basic differences between Christianity and paganism is that Christians think your politics should follow your morality and religion. This has crept into the discourse, so that they accuse pagans of being "race idolators" or of having a "political religion", as though that's a problem. But pagans say that's just how religion works. We say that morality is a branch of politics. When they say we're "race idolators" they're shooting themselves in the foot.
For pagans, political language is identical with religious language, an identification that Christians reject. Paganism is literally a political religion: the religion of the polis, or the folk. This isn't a bug but a feature. When Christians speak in the language of service to the race, that Europeans were "never better" than under Christendom, they are speaking pagan political language. They are invoking our theology against us, which is a battle they will lose in the long run.
When Christian identitarians say that their religion is good because it's good for our race, this forces people to think in pagan theological terms whether they understand it or not. Under the surface these Christians have become spiritually pagan, even if they remain superficially Christian. The match between whiteness and a specific religion is a structural feature of paganism, and paganism alone.
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"The greatest pagan tradition is converting to Christianity."
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Evolian "Traditionalists" point to a guy who said a woman can be born in a man's body and another guy who became a Muslim, and they say:
This is how we save the West.
This school of thought really just falls below the threshold of serious discourse.
Accordingly, as the right matures, the "Traditionalist" school has been hemorrhaging influence. For years now.
This is a great step forward.
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The folkish worldview is unlike anything you're used to. It's hard to understand what a hard break it is from modernity.
One important way the folkish worldview differs is in its approach to rationality. A modern worldview (and yes, modernity has ancient beginnings) says that the worldview can be judged according to the standards of rationality: if it doesn't meet those standards, we should abandon it.
Folkishness turns this completely around. The worldview comes first, rationality follows. The worldview comes from our gods and forefathers, and what is "rational" is defined by them, not the other way around. The root, our folkhood, is the basic presupposition. Without that, reason is impossible.
Folkishness is the ultimate presuppositionalism. Modern ideologies say "we adopt it because it's rational". We say "it's rational by virtue of it belonging to us", and it can't be any other way. There is a world of difference here. Modern ideologies, however old, are all some flavour of humanism. Folkishness is the bedrock this humanism stands upon.
If Christianity makes us weak, or liberal, or homosexual, then why does it not make non-Western people that way?
This question betrays a civic nationalist perspective. Just to ask the question is to not understand folkishness. The answer is very simple:
Because the same idea affects different people in different ways.
There's a reason why caterpillars can eat milkweed but humans can't: they're different kinds of thing. Milkweed is their bread and butter, but it would kill us. Same with Christianity. We're not insectoid peoples, so it's bad for us.
This doesn't mean we are bad. That's the civic nationalist perspective, thinking that there's a right food for all animals, a right way to be, that if we just eat milkweed long enough then we'll become enlightened bug creatures like the rest of the third world. The folkish worldview says that what's right for one is not right for all, that the gods have given different moralities to different peoples. If you don't understand this, then you are a race anti-realist, whatever your feelings about immigration are.
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"What would Jesus do?" is the basic moral heuristic of Christianity. But no matter the situation, the answer is the same:
Nothing. He would get nailed to a cross.
Christianity is pacifism. That's why when European kings needed to get serious and actually rule, they started looking pagan very quickly. This is the reason for the long battle between Pope and Emperor through the Middle Ages. Christianity is not fit to rule, it's fit to be ruled.
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Catholicism is the main enemy of folkish paganism, at least for now. Catholics are generally more serious Christians than Protestants or larpy white Orthodox. They're a large cohort. Catholicism also kind of feels European given how much paganism there is in it. But Catholic identification has fallen off a cliff. The numbers are really, really bad:
https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/catholics-are-rapidly-losing-ground
According to this survey, "practicing Catholics" (those who go to church one a week and attend mass once a year) are only 3.8% of the American population. Atheists outnumber them by about 800%. And they're shrinking fast: for every 1 person who joins the Catholic church, 8 leave.
There is no Christian revival. This is an online thing only.
Protestants are a joke, the time of Protestant fundamentalism is centuries behind us, it's just liberalism with crosses now. Orthodox are a rounding error. But the true hope for Christianity (Catholicism) is the sickest of all.
The old gods are clearing the way for the return of true European religions.
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These larpy perennialist sentiments seem to be spreading, but it's really just the opposite. They've been there for years, but they're only being expressed now because they're feeling the heat from real religious pagans who worship real gods.
For years the pagan right was happy just to kind of vibe on these ideas without actually expressing them, because they were so internalised. They were just background assumptions and didn't need to be stated, much less argued for. But now "Traditionalists" feel the need to argue for them, because they're losing their grip on the pagan right.
All the insubstantial fluff is being carried off like smoke on the wind because a new worldview is rising. But really, it's not new at all, it's old. The oldest worldview. The folkish worldview.
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We take it for granted that politics is a branch of morality, that the organisation and ends of the folk are governed by what's right.
But what if this is backwards? What if the ends of the folk govern what's right? What if what's right just is what's right for my folk? This is much closer to the folkish worldview.
The folkish worldview doesn't have a conception of "Right with a capital R", as in "right everywhere, at all times, for all people". Right differs depending on who you are. Right depends on who's asking, and who's telling. Right grows out of the folk.
It's impossible for your folk to be wrong. To even ask whether your folk might be wrong doesn't make sense. How could you even begin to answer the question?
Morality is a branch of politics.
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The difference between Platonists and folkish pagans becomes very clear when you look at what their objections to Christianity are.
The Platonist objection to Christianity is that it subordinates reason to revelation and eternal truths to historical events. True religion should center on timeless metaphysical realities, like the eternal forms or "The Good", rather than on historical contingencies such as the incarnation or the resurrection. Christianity is too particular and not universal enough.
The folkish objection to Christianity is that it is a universalist and anti-tribal faith that undermines ethnic, cultural, and ancestral identity. It breaks with native traditions and replaces them with foreign ones. It is deracinating, globalizing, and spiritually homogenizing. It undermines rootedness, blood ties, and local customs. Christianity is too universal and not particular enough.
Platonism accepts Christianity's framing completely. Platonism sees how Christianity challenged and undermined ethnic religion and says that it didn't go far enough.
Platonism is the enemy of ethnic faiths and it is a mystery how it continues to have any association with paganism at all.
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Very mask-off moment for Fuentes here.
"I don't think the answer to liberalism, which says fuck your own people, love aliens is to say fuck aliens, only love your own people. It's like, love everybody."
He wants to have it both ways, but you can't.
Folkishness differs from Christianity in that aliens are outside the scope of moral consideration. What's good for them only matters as far as it's good for us that they get it. You can break bread with the alien, but unless you have very good reason, it would be better to give that bread to your cousin.
This is why you can't have folkish Christianity. If you "love everybody", then you love nobody, certainly not your own folk. People are getting wise to this, which is part of why white people are leaving Christianity in droves.
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For however nutty and schizophrenic Christian Identity is, it's really the only way to square Christianity and even the weakest identitarianism.
They should be applauded for their commitment to folkishness, if not for their basic grasp of reality.
This post which APTA made is absolutely correct.
Traditional faiths held the legends, and how the blessed Gods were depicted, to be grand. They were songs of memories passed down from one generation to the next. Faiths which built entire civilizations from nothing and shall do so again.
We can see in this post the platonist denigrating the honor of the Gods and the legends saying they're "brutal" and implying the blessed holy Gods as immoral.
The goal of the platonist is not to revere traditional religion. It is to destroy and rewrite traditional religion. To wear the corpse of Paganism masquerading as holier than thou.
These are the same type of people who ironically accuse folkishness of being akin to protestants. But they themselves, in their sycophantic cult, follow their 'Martin Luther' Into rebellion against traditional religion and thus being reformers and revisionists in their own right.
Though they have suffered a critical defeat over the last year, it is wise to remember why we oppose them.
An autistic Italian man trying to work the toaster:
Uh—
Nn.
Down.
Tchk—!
No.
Bread.
BREAD.
Hot!
#@!k—
R E V O L T
A G A I N S T
T H E
M O D E R N
W O R L D
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Christian theology is obviously subversive and gay, so why are Christians some of the most opposed to communism and gender confusion? The answer is simple, and it's not because of anything inherent in their religion. It's because reality has imposed itself on Christianity.
Christianity has an important advantage over the pagan revival: it has had to rule pragmatically for 1500 years. When you have to keep a society together, suddenly certain things are off the table. You have to get rid of apocalypticism, "hating your father and mother", and agnosticism toward race, because they will tip your society over. Even though they're at the center of the theology, they have to be played down.
This compromising your actual theology is what Catholics call "tradition". Christian "tradition" is when a priest corrects God and says that the plain meaning of the biblical sources isn't the real meaning, and here is some pilpul that makes Christianity more based and trad—in short, more pagan. This is why Protestants accuse Catholics of being pagan, and it's why Catholics get so mad when Protestants just follow what's in the Bible and end up with some gay utopian communist apocalypse cult pretty much immediately.
This is also why "woke pagans" exist: paganism is a bit of a blank canvas, at least for now. They feel they can project whatever they want on to it. But as time goes on, you see paganism become more what it is (folkish), just as you see Christianity become more what it is (atheism, liberalism). In a generation, "woke pagans" won't even exist, and Christianity will have shed its traditionalism completely.
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My nemesis has appeared.
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When the pagan says "we have never been more Christian," the Christian struggles to understand. But the pagan is simply agreeing with the Catholic Church.
"At its core, this case is not solely a question about citizenship status or the 14th Amendment. It is a question of whether the law will affirm or deny the equal worth of those born within our common community—whether the law will protect the human dignity of all God’s children."
Carl Jung is often quoted as saying that "Modern man cannot see God because he does not look low enough". The actual quote is above but this is a fair summary.
There's a based version of this and a cringe version. The cringe version is Jordan Peterson's interpretation, which is a fetishization of "whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers". It's the idea that Yahweh is to be found in the low, the deformed, the weird, the ugly. In a way this is right, but only because Yahweh is itself deformed. It does not speak for the divine.
The based version says that the divine is not to be found in the beyond, in the transcendent, in the remote, in the foreign. The divine is to be found in the soil. The divine is in what is rooted, here and now, situated. The divine is not high, it is profound—these are not the same, but opposites. Men look for the high god and find him not, because he is misnamed—the great god is really the lowest god, found in the abyssal depths and bedrock of the world. This is folkish. Jordan Peterson and the theology he cannot quite bring himself to believe in, are not.
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The "principled loser" is the child of post-folkish theologies. Christianity, Platonism, various flavours of post-Vedic Hindiusm, etc. All say some version of "we are not of this world": the true self, the higher self, this belongs to the realm of transcendence.
"What shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" (Mark 8:36) No. Gain the world or die in the attempt. Or else you'll be judged as a coward and fed to the devouring serpent.
"Better to suffer wrong than to do wrong." (Plato, Gorgias) No. Your enemies are outside all morality. You owe them nothing.
Folkish theologies demand victory in this world. Losing is a moral failure. Principled losing is just losing. Because folkishness has no regard for principle. Only for taboo.
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Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Forgiving your enemies is not just a Christian thing but runs through Platonism, Vedanta, Buddhism, and many other anti-folkish theologies. The poison runs very deep.
What's at the bottom of all of these is the abstracting of morality into an impersonal logos vs. a theological voluntarist framework. That is where this suicidal forgiveness comes from.
This might sound complicated but it's really quite simple.
The folkish view of the divine is one of embodied will. The god/s are here, in this reality, and they are intelligences much like you and I (albeit on a level unfathomable to us). Justice is done because someone wills it here and now.
By contrast, in these anti-folkish theologies, justice does itself, automatically. It's our job as humans simply to get out of the way and let karma, or divine punishment, or natural law, or "dialectical materialism" destroy our enemies for us. This grows out of the insistence on logos, the abstract law, over what we could call kratos, or the embodied law that results from power and will.
When Christians forgive their enemies they're not just cucking or trying to be the bigger man or even hoping for mercy in turn from Yahweh. They are doing those things, yes, but they're doing something much deeper: they're expressing a belief that justice will be meted out without human involvement.
Is it cuckoldry? Yes. But the cuckoldry comes from a deeper error. It's important to see what's beneath the cuckoldry, because many otherwise folkish and intolerant people—indeed, many pagans—endorse something (logos) whose fruits they oppose (pacifism).
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The Gods came to earth and sired us.
Our physical appearances are gifts. Inherited traits that are meaningful because we look like our divine parents.
To practice our native “religion” is to serve the holy Gods. And by extension, our folk.
“Race” is a biological category that determines likeness based on material attributes.
Folk is the extended family that descends from the Gods.
To us, there is no separation between race and religion. Our religion is our race because it is the inescapable truth of our folk.
Those who argue that either religion or race must be prioritized are still too modern and liberal to fathom that this separation is a spook.
You can’t choose your religion. It is the ways of your people as commanded by your ancestors.
Forn Siðr
Mos Maiorum
Ta Patria
All of the ancient world believed this.
Until you abandon your hubris and kneel before your fathers’ fathers and the holy Goðin, you will never be whole.
Come home.
Maybe it's because folkish pagans don't like when being folkish is called slop?
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Another day, another Nick Fuentes meltdown about paganism. "White people are in a crisis" and "need Christianity" to solve it. And "paganism is getting in the way".
Fuentes is not for white people. He is for Catholicism, and white people are along for the ride. Except they're not. Catholicism is a third world religion. It began as a third world religion, then grafted itself on to Europe for a while. Now it has outgrown Europe, and has returned to its roots as a brown people religion, which it will remain forever. The very people Fuentes claims to oppose derive their power from Christianity, because it bends our spiritual axis toward their homeland. We will not be free from them until we are free from Christianity.
It's really very simple: Christianity can't put folk first because it's a religion for everyone. Paganism can put folk first, because the folk and the religion are inseparable. This is what every Orthodox Twitter anon is worried about. This is what Fuentes is worried about. Paganism is the solution to the genocide of our folk, and deep down, he knows it. He's just on a different team.
All of the work Fuentes has done "redpilling" people, feuding with Tucker Carlson and so forth, scatters like petals in a storm. His true legacy is in pouring the gasoline of Christianity on to the fire of civic nationalism. If he went to his pastor and started talking the way he does live on air, he would find himself excommunicated. That is the true spirit of Christianity.
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Something interesting has been happening. Have you noticed?
When pagans (or others) argue a theory of history, or some metaphysical concept, or folkhood etc, Christians now say "well, we have this concept too", or "we can defend race and folkhood too". Do you see what's going on?
They're on the back foot. They feel left out. For the first time in thousands of years, Christians are having to argue their position, but not from the right against the left: they're arguing from the left against the right.
But they don't know how to do that. Christianity can't claim to be our tradition because we're not Christian anymore, Christianity has been replaced by modernity. And Christians can't argue that they're the defenders of authority and tradition because paganism has begun to argue that point, and convincingly.
Christianity has been the null hypothesis for centuries, but that's over. Now it's being outflanked from the right, but it's also not the leftmost point on the compass. Where can it stand?
This will only get worse.
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Chad Pastoralist is right. Paganism did not die on conversion, cannot die, will never die.
/channel/thechadpastoralist/3103
The preservation of the Eddas is a divine miracle, but they are not the only source. There is enough to reconstruct from folk traditions, which are thinly veiled pagan traditions anyway. And demanding that a Celt or a Balt worship Odin is ambiguously folkish at best. Drink from your own well. It is nowhere near as dry as you've been told.
There is power in showing how Christian history is really just schizophrenic pagan history. A history of confusion, self-doubt, and then renewal—but a glorious history nonetheless. Our history.
The foreign desert cult is a footnote in our history, we are not a footnote in its history.
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20 minutes until William goes live to discuss the epic method, Rydberg, and the genealogy of the gods on the channel Pagan Revivalism. You will definitely want to listen in. There will be a Q and A section from the audience as well.
/channel/Pagan_Revivalism?livestream
Neoplatonists are Christians in togas. "Pagan fundamentalism" is just demanding that you meet even the most basic standards of piety, and not recast myths as something they obviously aren't because you don't like them.
/channel/FortissaxIsTyping/2780
Lithuania has recognized Baltic paganism at the state level
On December 12, the Seimas, guided by Article 43 of the Constitution, the Law on Religious Communities and Associations, and taking into account the conclusion of the Ministry of Justice of December 29, 2017, granted state recognition to the ancient Balt religious community " Romuva "
Back in 2019, the Romuva association tried to push such a solution through the Lithuanian Seimas, but the decision was repeatedly postponed and ultimately not supported, primarily for political reasons. Romuva then filed an application with the ECHR, and after consideration in 2021, the court ruled in favor of the community.
Last September, the Seimas again rejected the proposal to grant Romuva state recognition. But on December 12, 2024, the Lithuanian Seimas held a repeat vote on granting Romuva official status. 64 deputies voted for this decision, 8 voted against, and 10 abstained. Now Romuva will receive official state recognition as a religious society.