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Something I’m surprised Natalie didn’t mention when talking about conspiracies George Washington had to deal with.
His answer to the guy warning him about the dangers of the Illuminati and Freemasons makes a lot of sense if you know anything about George
1. He was a Federalist in all but name, meaning he didn’t like continental Europeans getting involved in the US, and the Illuminati, as a German/french org would be something he could conceivably be worried about.
2. The big one, WASHINGTON WAS A FREEMASON, this is apart of so many conspiracies about the Masons controlling the world I’m surprised she didn’t mention it, of course Washington would exonerate the masons, he was with them and would notice any plots to destroy America at the lodge.
This is the thing with Mason conspiracies, in an age before the internet the Freemasons were just a social club for young (usually) wealthy men that was appealing to a lot because they didn’t discriminate based on religion or race (supposedly.) so people from Washington to Churchill joined for want of internet porn to pass the time. And most of them weren’t even that deeply involved, it was mostly just something to do with their weekends, drink cold ones with the boyz, that sort of thing.
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round Britain, make no mention whatever of Thule”*
The only authors we know of that talk about him speak of him in harshly critical terms.
What remains most probable is that thule is the result of confusion surrounding either the shetland islands or the orkneys.
Sources: [Strabo, Geography, Book 7, chapter 3](https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.01.0198:book=7:chapter=3&highlight=pytheas)
[https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.01.0239:book=1:chapter=4&highlight=pytheas](https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.01.0239:book=1:chapter=4&highlight=pytheas)
*Lost Continents: The Atlantis Theme in History, Science, and Literature by L Sprague De camp. page 54.*
1:19:28 “die glocke” This is bullshit at face value due to the general date of the evidence provided.
The first ever claim of this originates with an author named nick cook who used a polish author named igor witkowski’s work called “prawda o wunderwaffe”, or “the truth about wonder weapons”
The author is just a plain conspiracy theorist and professional bullshit artist who uses a science fiction novel.
SOURCES: [The Story behind Die Glocke | And Why I Hate This Conspiracy Theory](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49f-NMGzbAs) a good youtuber that i like.
2:36:05 “kap dwa”
According to the wendigoon and “according to legend” (whatever that means) it was a giant that the spaniards discovered in 1673 in patagonia in argentina, whom they tied to the mast of the ship and eventually broke loose and killed four sailors. Later it would be exhibited in england as a horror freak show. These four sailors would actually help me in researching it, because I found the article when searching “four sailors” in google.
The main peculiarities that I find, is his seemingly on purpose treatment of these things as if they were certain facts. His only “disclaimer” about it is that he says “according to legend”. The actual evidence for this is stretched to say the least or bullshit at worst.
The article I found that mentioned that these four sailors were killed soon thereafter states “Reports varied wildly on the giant’s heights. Some sources describe them as six feet, others up to 12 feet. Could it be that these people were simply taller than your average sailor? Historians note that Europeans during the Age of Discovery rarely exceeded 5′5″.
Sailors weren’t exactly known for their factually accurate descriptions.
an incongruity is the name “kap dwa”, which is malay for “two heads” a tad bit strange for something supposedly coming from patagonia dont you think?.
Brown university also states “ Kap-Dwa is both historical legend and a hoax, similar to other figures of "rouge taxidermy" such as P. T. Barnum's "Fiji Mermaid" and the "Jackalope"
SOURCES:
[https://explorersweb.com/exploration-mysteries-the-giants-of-patagonia/](https://explorersweb.com/exploration-mysteries-the-giants-of-patagonia/)
[https://brown.primo.exlibrisgroup.com/discovery/fulldisplay?docid=alma991031944679706966&context=L&vid=01BU\_INST:BROWN](https://brown.primo.exlibrisgroup.com/discovery/fulldisplay?docid=alma991031944679706966&context=L&vid=01BU_INST:BROWN)
2:37:00 “cat nuns”.
This was an alleged case of mass hysteria where the nuns of a french convent started to collectively meow and were only stopped by the town putting a stop to it.
The first thing we need is some context on thia: after researching (also know as a google search) i found the general source of this, a wikipedia article called “List of mass panic cases”.
After searching through the history of the wikipedia article and found the original addition of it at [21:32, 19 July 2015](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_mass_panic_cases&oldid=672181999). The source was “**Mass Delusions and Hysterias”** by the skeptical inquirer.
The story was cited from a medical history book named “the Epidemics of the middle ages” Which was published in *1844.* This book cites it source from another one as follows.
*“I have read in a good medical work
Slightly off topic: Wendigoon is full of shit, here’s why.
This is an improved version of my other post on r/hbomberguy
This post will be a *tad* bit longer than usual.
What I want to do throughout this post is to describe the many issues I have with a video by the youtuber wendigoon, specifically his video called “the conspiracy theory iceberg”.
What attracted me to making this was the many previous issues I've had with him, but hitherto all ranged exclusively to plagiarism.
this one is about certain issues he has factually, especially around conspiracy theories, cryptids, etc etc.
Though this isn’t his iceberg and thus he didn’t make it, you could sufficiently blame on the creator of the iceberg and absolve wendigoon of guilt which would be fair. But, the fact that wendigoon never bothers to fact check these makes it scummy as hell and frankly lazy.
This is by no means a complete ‘debunking’ of all of his claims, mainly because the video is *9 fucking hours long,* and i don’t have the time for that, so i will only talk about some of things in the video here and there.
Some of these conspiracy theories are either way too deep for me to get into and waste my time on or aren't in my frame of expertise due my greater fascination with historical and pseudo-historical and archeological subjects.
Throughout I will provide timestamps and certain quotes throughout the video will be given as references. There will also be sources given when he’s incorrect about the things he’s talking about.
4:47 “atlantis”
In this he states there were records of an island all the way back in ancient greece between athens and sparta.
The main issue at fault is this statement is misleading at best and horseshit at worst. The principal and really only source we have on this comes from Plato's dialogues on timaeus and critias.
In these dialogues the aforementioned characters discuss the existence of the island of atlantis, a beautiful island that existed more than 9000 before the birth of solon, which would place it in the 9000s bce.
“ *Now in this island of Atlantis there was a great and wonderful empire which had rule over the whole island and several others, and over parts of the continent, and, furthermore, the men of Atlantis had subjected the parts of Libya within the columns of Heracles as far as Egypt, and of Europe as far as Tyrrhenia… and then, Solon, your country shone forth, in the excellence of her virtue and strength, among all mankind. She was pre-eminent in courage and military skill, and was the leader of the Hellenes”.*
*(timaeus 26, jowett)*
The date of this is already raises eyebrows, in addition to his claim that the city of Athens somehow was the most preeminent in virtue strength, and somehow for athens, military skills.
From a historical standpoint the existence of atlantis at this point in time would be low to say the least. In addition to the non-existence of anything resembling a source whatsoever before plato reduces atlantis to an allegory for the times.
SOURCES: [https://www.britannica.com/topic/Atlantis-legendary-island](https://www.britannica.com/topic/Atlantis-legendary-island)
[Critias (Jowett) - Wikisource, the free online library](https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Critias_(Jowett))
[Timaeus (Jowett) - Wikisource, the free online library](https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Timaeus_(Jowett))
13:00 “the mad gasser of mattoon” just a short note but notice how later in the video he somehow treats nuns meowing together with greater probability than people suffering from a gas leak.
1:11:36 “The road to roota” This was a comic made by the federal government to explain market economics to children and younger people. However, a man by the name of bix weir claims that It is secretly attempting to “destroy the financial banking powers that have secretly controlled all aspects of our lives for hundreds of years”. In general he Is against the banking system and wants to return to the gold standard.
This is patently bullshit due to him taking a children’s comic too seriously and believing that
Mother, is that you?
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Haven’t seen the video Twilight yet. I haven’t read Twilight or seen the movies or know the plots should I do that before I watch the twilight video. I don’t want to spoil it.
I always wanted to read twilight and many of my friends did in like 2007. But I never could keep reading it because I just wasn't that interested.
So if you all could help me know. It seems like a really important story and I sort of don't want the plot points to be given away. I don't always think spoilers are meaningful or something to care about. Like they aren't that important for some stories but for like Agatha Christie it definitely sort of ruins it. But for like titanic it doesn't really ruin it at all
So will the contrapoints video ruin twilight if I havent read it yet?
Or does it not do that?
I like contrapoints I think she is like what I would think if I was smart enough to think that and then she can and just tell me so I really appreciate it
And I really enjoyed the conspiracy one so i want to watch twilight but will it be a spoiler for twilight?
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I think transphobia is conspiracism
There has always been transphobia, but earlier it had another tone. In the mainstream, it was mostly a joke about a trans women tricking a hetero guy, or a cross-dressing serial killer. So the transphobic storyline was that of an individual über-perv, not an idea of some shadowy elite trying to eradicate women. With this in mind, I think the key to understand today's transphobia is the mindset that ContraPoints labeled conspiracism. Mind, this is mostly founded on my feels. But my feels are on point more often than not.
Let's look at the vids core beliefs if conspiracism. Transphobia seems to fit with Intentionalism and Dualism. But I was a bit unsure about the third principle, Symbolism. I guess there is Tala, and whatever pervy stuff they can read into Disney movie posters, which fits the idea of trying to groom children.
I think Symbolism belongs mostly in a specific more religious or spiritual motivated segment of conspiracist thought. I'm Danish and was rather into 9/11 conspiracies, and I don't remember encountering any Symbolism. I just don't think Symbolism and rituals resonates as much with atheists in a mostly atheist country as they does in a heavily religious country as America. What I do remember encountering, however, is the way conspiracies escelates, with a steady stream of new theories. Speaking of which ...
Nobody believes in a single conspiracy. The book Escaping the Rabbit Hole place each conspiracy theory on a horizontal line. The less extreme (JFK) are placed to the left, while the more extreme (flat earth) are to the right. Sorta like this:
JFK--9/11--climate denial--Antivax--Chemtrails--Pizzagate--Reptilians--Flat Earth
Depending on where conspiratist thinkers are on the spectum, they will believe most of the ones to the left of their position. The left ones are where the rabbit hole begins.
I'd argue (stay with me) that transphobia falls on the left edge of the spectrum, since it for CIS people have the aesthetics of common sense. Female spaces and protecting women in sport sounds progressive and feminist. Thus, CIS people can buy into them without having to have been conditioned to this mindset through anti-vax or such.
But is TERF a rabbit hole to other conspiracies? I dunno.
Another aspect of conspiracism is that, much like centrism, it think of itself as outside the political spectrum. Also like centrism, it leans heavily far-right. The video [J. K. Rowlings New Friends](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuxvXJJk7k) explores how the TERF movement range from declared feminists to anti-feminist and Nazis.
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Ambien chess
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Why did Natalie say she wanted to publish CONSPIRACY before the 2024 US presidential election?
In “AMA Stream #61b” she said her goal was to publish before the election. I can’t quite figure out why (it featured politics but it wasn’t necessarily a political video essay to me).
On the one hand, it may have been self-evident given the political discourse of the election. On the other hand, maybe the video initially had a different angle that got changed by the election result? Or? Why the timing?
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My response to the 'conspiracy video' as someone raised in two cults, and whos parents believed 95% of the shit in the video. QANON, illuminati, anything pill shaped is satanic, the Catholic church especially big poopoo stinky, organ harvest, masonry etc. Also AMA
Hi I'm new to this sub, I'm sorry if you don't do AMA's but I checked the rules and it said 'Posts must be on-topic', and considering the recent 'conspiracy' video I thought it might be fun to deal with the embarassment of believing a big portion of this shit in my life as a child lol by coming clean.
As a guy who was told vaccines cause autism, anti depressents (and epilepsy meds (as an epileptic this was a big L ;-;)) it's actually crazy watching this video because it made me realise gaddamn this shit is actually crazy. I never realised how big of a deal this was. It was my partner who made me realise only recently I was actually raised in two cults, because beforehand I thought it was just religion.
I was raised by people who believed literally 95% of the stuff in the video. My parents didn't directly believe in the flat earth and lizard people, but they did entertain the idea as family friends where very convinced. I think the first thing that I want to say about this is you might be completely surprised about how many people believe this. When you get into this circle, you realise how many people believe in the fact that the jews run everything and you're a slave to satan. Don't take pills! Thats big pharma trying to harvest your organs, instead do a bunch of mushrooms as a teenager in a forest to connect with your chakras. Don't go to school! That's the beginning of manipulation.
Before any obvious ones, the pyramids 'conspiracy diagrams' were very very enforced into me as a child. I didn't realise it now but it was kinda very anti-semetic. Bankers that happened to be jewish a lot of the time where the ones portrayed as the 'ones who really ran things'. Jay-Z and Beyonce where all in on it, and most popular celebrities where all committed to blood rituals.
Every single logo like the M in the monster energy drink (same thing in your video queenie pop) was proof of the Catholics using satanic logos to control us. Catholics, Prods, Islam (although funnily enough my mum being Polish was very sure it was mainly just the Catholics) are humans manipulated by 'the system'.
Text is getting long so I'ma stop here feel free to ask me anything love u all xoxoox (sry mods if this isn't relevant enough although a long term contrapoints fan I've only recently joined this sub)
P.S I thankfully managed to de-redpill myself through my teenage years but I'm still struggling believing anything in the mainstream media not being deep state. I know it isn't but it's just installed paranoia at this point.
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Music in Gamergate tangent?
Hey friends,
There are such wonderful piano pieces playing in the Gamergate tangent, but they're so quiet and Natalie talks over them so much (not complaining about that) that Shazam can't recognize them. Wonder if any fellow Patreon can help?
Thanks!
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Thoughts on this?
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The Eras of ContraPoints
I saw someone doing this on one of my other YouTuber subs and thought it would be a fun, low pressure, question/game to play over here. What do you think of as the definitive era's of ContraPoints. Use whatever metric you choose...production style, choice of topic, where you were in your life when the video came out. I'm posting my breakdown in this post but I'm more interested in hearing yours than arguing over mine.
ERA 1: Dialectical Discourse: A focus on economic and social topics through a Marxist frame. Often employed multiple characters engaged in faux dialogue What's Wrong With Capitalism (Part 1) thru Freedom of Speech
Era 2: Gender and The Alt Right: The "deprogramming Incels" era which also coincides with Natalie's social/public transition. Rather than alternating between topics she often found ways for one topic to comment on the other. Probably its most fulsome expression of this being "The Darkness" (a personal favorite of mine). What is Gender? / The Alt-Right thru Are Traps Gay?
Era 3: Socratic Sentiments: Nat turns away from Marxist historiography and starts relying on Socratic interrogation of largely unexamined facets of American culture/psyche. Beauty thru Opulence (also includes Envy and Shame)
Era 4: I Am Become 'The Story', Destroyer of Worlds. Co-occurs with the second half of Socratic Sentiments. Nat herself has become the story and the focus of para-social fascination. Somewhat of a return to form of the "Gender and Alt Right" days as they involve deep dives into internet cultures. Canceling and Cringe but also The Hunger and Voting.
Era 5: Big Topics, Even Bigger Videos. A return to her fascination with the right wing, now focusing on topics a bit more discreet than, like, all of capitalism. Long form videos with high production values. Still favoring the Socratic method. Both JK Rowling Videos, Twilight, and Conspiracy.
Your thoughts?
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Natalie skeeting bombs
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Aren't fantasies from Twilight similarly toxic as male fantasies in media (video games and movies)?
Okay, so please hear me out before you judge.
I've been watching some Big Joel and Contrapoints videos, and I've seen one about Anita Sarkeesian on Big Joel channel and now the Twilight video.
Something has occured to me, Big Joel discussed a video from Anita Sarkeesian about male fantasies in Double Dragon or some other beat-em-up essentially he agreed with Anita points as to how video games portray sexist, objectifying male fantasies of women and I agree with these points.
I think that male fantasies are often made at expense of women.
Then I watched the cuck - tent scene in Contrapoints video and it occured to me, isn't all of this at the expense of Edward which is turning Bella on even more?
I mean like come on, the author of the book made up A PERFECT SCENARIO which absolves her of all the responsibillity, because hey VAMPIRES ARE COLD and WEREWOLVES ARE HOT, I am going to freeze to death if someone really really hot doesn't hug me RIGHT NOW, what are you going to do, let me die?
There is no choice here, similarly to how in Mario, Peach is kidnapped and Mario has no choice but to run and rescue her.
"Fantasies are not literal wishes. Fantasies construct situations where emotional needs are met and inhibitions to pleasure are removed."
My point is, both these fantasies are made at the expense of the other sex. Edward is absolutely fucking mad and jealous and not only that, it is a necessary part of the fantasy, because it turns Bella on EVEN MORE.
Okay, I hope this didn't come off as weird or anything, thank you for reading :)
Have a nice day! <3
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Question about Twilight
Throughout the video, Natalie directly quotes passages from either the movie or from interviews with Stephanie Meyer and then plays the clip from which she's quoting.
Example:
A girl and a boy in a meadow, having this conversation about how they were in love, and the difficulties in that because he wanted to kill her. He was a vampire. (Time stamp 0:00:40, literally 40 seconds into the video).
Can anyone explain the intention of this schtick? Is it just that she wants people to know she's saying "... and this is a direct quote here" without having to constantly repeat that phrase throughout the video? That it sounds extremely dumb and she doesn't want to be blamed for writing something dumb?
Thanks in advance.
TS vampiretrunkz
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that a nun, in a very large convent in France, began to mew like a cat; shortly afterwards other nuns also mewed. At last all the nuns mewed together every day at a certain time for several hours together. The whole surrounding Christian neighbourhood heard, with equal chagrin and astonishment, this daily cat-concert, which did not cease until all the nuns were informed that a company of soldiers were placed by the police before the entrance of the convent, and that they were provided with rods, and would continue whipping them until they promised not to mew any more”*
Zimmermann on Solitude, Vol. II. Leipsig. 1784. — Transl. note.
This all seems fair and good until you read some of the sentences before this such as:
“The imaginations of women are always more excitable than those of men, and they are therefore susceptible of every folly when they lead a life of strict seclusion, and their thoughts are constantly turned inwards upon themselves” ibid.
Ahh, 18th century medical sexism, truly the most trustworthy of medical sources. “i have read in a good medical work” isn’t exactly the greatest citation.
We’ve basically reached a historical dead end and can’t search further, mainly due to the author’s reference to this mysterious medical manuscript that we don’t know about. It could have been that this really existed, or they fabricated it to prove their point about “the imaginations of women” or something like that.
This wasn’t his most egregious of mistakes, just one that I personally knew from Sam o’nella.
SOURCES: [https://skepticalinquirer.org/2000/05/mass-delusions-and-hysterias/](https://skepticalinquirer.org/2000/05/mass-delusions-and-hysterias/)
[The epidemics of the Middle Ages : Hecker, J. F. C. (Justus Friedrich Carl), 1795-1850 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive](https://archive.org/details/epidemicsofmiddl1844heck/page/118/mode/2up)
[https://www.curiousarchive.com/the-murky-truth-about-the-meowing-french-nuns/](https://www.curiousarchive.com/the-murky-truth-about-the-meowing-french-nuns/)
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only he had noticed the “secret”. After doing some digging on who he is, I discovered his “interests”. by that he was hawking crypto currency, and spreading bullshit about gold and silver.
He’s essentially a grifter for crypto, despite what it says on his bio. I also found some posts on reddit from a few years ago hinting at his not so stellar reputation.
Sources: [https://www.roadtoroota.com/public/main.cfm](https://www.roadtoroota.com/public/main.cfm)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/theta\_network/comments/s0kknz/ill\_have\_what\_bix\_weir\_is\_smoking/](https://www.reddit.com/r/theta_network/comments/s0kknz/ill_have_what_bix_weir_is_smoking/)
1:15:21 “hitler Escaped inside the earth” Jeez fucking louise, do i even have to say anything about this?, should i say that earth physically can’t be hollow because the outer shell would collapse in on itself due to fucking gravity.
The conspiracy tells that the germans managed to dig a hole to agartha via super secret tunnels in berlin that nobody has ever seen or talked about before. I couldn’t find the originator of this conspiracy.
Sources: [https://futurism.com/what-if-earth-really-were-hollow-video](https://futurism.com/what-if-earth-really-were-hollow-video)
I highly recommend you check out this essay: [https://aeon.co/essays/how-the-hollow-earth-hypothesis-illuminates-falsifiable-science](https://aeon.co/essays/how-the-hollow-earth-hypothesis-illuminates-falsifiable-science) by joel frohlich
1:17:24 “DMT Beings” This occurs when people are high on a drug called **Dimethyltryptamine** and claim to see weird alien elf-like creatures in their hallucinations.
It should be noted that DMT is one of the major ingredients in amerindian shamanic decoction, for example ayahuasca (‘vine of the dead’). Not many studies have yet been done on this drug yet and remains uncertain. It is also quite rare among other drugs, with only 0,7% use of it in the united states.
According to Dr David Luke, associate professor of psychology at greenwich university and an author on books on DMT encounters:
“Encounters are really common… you get them more often than not with a high dose of DMT... there is a wide degree of diversity but there are also some recurrent themes that tend to pop up more than would seem purely random. Among the most common are 'little people', be they elves, dwarves or pixies”
Another common occurrence are mantis-like creatures.
So, what’s the explanation for this?, One is that it stimulates the brain that gives rise to visual associations, though we are yet unsure of the reasons.
SOURCES: [https://www.iflscience.com/why-do-people-see-elves-and-other-entities-when-they-smoke-dmt-62234](https://www.iflscience.com/why-do-people-see-elves-and-other-entities-when-they-smoke-dmt-62234) By benjamin taub.
[An Encounter With the Other: A Thematic and Content Analysis of DMT Experiences From a Naturalistic Field Study](https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.720717/full)
1:18:47: “thule” refers to an alleged island common on several maps common throughout the middle ages and ancient greece.
Wikipedia credits the first ever source of this to an ancient Greek man named Pytheas who wrote about geographic discoveries at length. Like many other ancient authors his work remains lost to the sands of time though his work was quoted and used by other scholars during and after his time.
The funny thing about him after I researched other texts by fellow scholars like Strabo and Polybius was his less than stellar reputation among his fellow authors. For example, certain choice quotes make it clear and evident:
*“and also to all those false statements made by Pytheas the Massalian regarding the country along the ocean, wherein he uses as a screen his scientific knowledge of astronomy and mathematics” Strabo, geography, book 7 chapter 3.*
*"Pytheas, who has given us the history of Thule, is known to be a man upon whom no reliance can be placed, and other writers who have seen Britain and Ierne, although they tell us of many small islands
Slightly off topic: Wendigoon is full of shit, here’s why.
This is an improved version of my other post on r/hbomberguy
This post will be a tad bit longer than usual.
What I want to do throughout this post is to describe the many issues I have with a video by the youtuber wendigoon, specifically his video called “the conspiracy theory iceberg”.
What attracted me to making this was the many previous issues I've had with him, but hitherto all ranged exclusively to plagiarism.
this one is about certain issues he has factually, especially around conspiracy theories, cryptids, etc etc.
Though this isn’t his iceberg and thus he didn’t make it, you could sufficiently blame on the creator of the iceberg and absolve wendigoon of guilt which would be fair. But, the fact that wendigoon never bothers to fact check these makes it scummy as hell and frankly lazy.
This is by no means a complete ‘debunking’ of all of his claims, mainly because the video is 9 fucking hours long, and i don’t have the time for that, so i will only talk about some of things in the video here and there.
Some of these conspiracy theories are either way too deep for me to get into and waste my time on or aren't in my frame of expertise due my greater fascination with historical and pseudo-historical and archeological subjects.
Throughout I will provide timestamps and certain quotes throughout the video will be given as references. There will also be sources given when he’s incorrect about the things he’s talking about.
4:47 “atlantis”
In this he states there were records of an island all the way back in ancient greece between athens and sparta.
The main issue at fault is this statement is misleading at best and horseshit at worst. The principal and really only source we have on this comes from Plato's dialogues on timaeus and critias.
In these dialogues the aforementioned characters discuss the existence of the island of atlantis, a beautiful island that existed more than 9000 before the birth of solon, which would place it in the 9000s bce.
“ Now in this island of Atlantis there was a great and wonderful empire which had rule over the whole island and several others, and over parts of the continent, and, furthermore, the men of Atlantis had subjected the parts of Libya within the columns of Heracles as far as Egypt, and of Europe as far as Tyrrhenia… and then, Solon, your country shone forth, in the excellence of her virtue and strength, among all mankind. She was pre-eminent in courage and military skill, and was the leader of the Hellenes”.
(timaeus 26, jowett)
The date of this is already raises eyebrows, in addition to his claim that the city of Athens somehow was the most preeminent in virtue strength, and somehow for athens, military skills.
From a historical standpoint the existence of atlantis at this point in time would be low to say the least. In addition to the non-existence of anything resembling a source whatsoever before plato reduces atlantis to an allegory for the times.
SOURCES: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Atlantis-legendary-island
Critias (Jowett) - Wikisource, the free online library)
Timaeus (Jowett) - Wikisource, the free online library)
13:00 “the mad gasser of mattoon” just a short note but notice how later in the video he somehow treats nuns meowing together with greater probability than people suffering from a gas leak.
1:11:36 “The road to roota” This was a comic made by the federal government to explain market economics to children and younger people. However, a man by the name of bix weir claims that It is secretly attempting to “destroy the financial banking powers that have secretly controlled all aspects of our lives for hundreds of years”. In general he Is against the banking system and wants to return to the gold standard.
This is patently bullshit due to him taking a children’s comic too seriously and believing that
THOU SHALT NOT discuss or acknowledge your sex life, especially to your ascendants, UNLESS it's within the bounds of holy matrimony, for the blessed purpose of reproduction.
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Envy: Envying other activists
I'm already part of socialist revolutionary group, they have helped me feel confident, have same values, we done demo, supported strikes,petitions, held a united front events and talked to community and even though we have theory we don't have dogmatic gatekeeping of "know this person and you join us" and I have been really happy being part of it. They treat me like a comrade and hope to see me excel
But I still have hard time to let go of Envy. I know people who are more experienced and much are confident than I am who can step up easily and they already working on their own talks. I'm slowly building confident but Due to my mental health it takes a lot of energy , still have I sort of self loathing that I get envious that activists are much more able to join the cause.
Even another comrade points out comparison isn't healthy for me, and they are Honestly the most healthiest and encouraging group who even give me suggestions on what I could do I just get weirdly pathetic and anxiety prone who thinks he isn't good enough for leadership.
I should really learn to stop being envious
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Contrapoints Coffee Table Book
In these, the end times, I find myself frantically taking inventory of all the media I love but do not, and cannot, own.
I have most of my favorite books and movies and video games. But what about my favorite podcast: Comedy Bang Bang? What about my favorite flash cartoon from the early 2000s: Homestar Runner?
And what about my favorite YouTuber: Contrapoints?
I’m sure I’m the ten millionth person to bring this up, but I would sincerely LOVE a collection of her video scripts in some bound volume. She could even do some notes in the margins, like those collections of Far Side cartoons where Gary Larson would reflect on certain jokes he no longer liked or whatever. She could reflect on certain aspects of her scripts that she’s changed her mind on, or wishes could rephrase, or whatevs.
Natalie Wynn is THE philosopher of our times, gorge, and the more our government cracks down on media, the more I worry about electronic, hosted media disappearing.
TLDR: I like book. Please make book. Ty
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From Klein’s Doppelgänger. Can the establishment wield anti-conspiracist language to hide their own conspiracies?
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Going back to rewatch all her videos for the first time.
I'm on Autogynephilia now. She's more of a fucking goofball than I remember. I'm also much better versed in trans issues and culture, and nazi bullshit, than I was in 2027. So it's like watching them anew, and her points sink in deeper.
I got canceled (more like mobbed) by a bunch of white women in a lefty community where I lived over the pandemic, so I know Canceling is going to rock on rewatch.
Share highlights from your favorite videos?
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How I feel about the new video vs comments
Comments: Conspiracy wasn't her best work...
Me: I-I liked it.
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My favorite comment on the new video
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"I don't know about you but I've never met someone who works in a factory"
Hi Contrababies, sorry to divert away from her new video but I was wondering if anyone knows which of her videos this vaguely quoted line is from? I'm doing a project on something related for uni and the quote just sprang to mind. It's probably too vague but I just thought I'd try asking... tysm
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Help identifying a track from "Voting"
Hey /r/ContraPoints, I want to ID a track from "Voting" (timestamped).
The song goes from 7:02-7:22 and 7:34-7:50. I looked at the music credits--it may be from Pond5, but their library seems vast. Shazam came back null.
Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance!
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